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Old 09-26-2012, 08:21 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Someone mentioned EU membership. As long as the Ukraine is considered a dictatorship by the West (whether rightly so or not), it will not become part of the EU.
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:22 AM
 
Location: State Fire and Ice
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They are big...stairs. Kidding, not trying to be trite, but I didn't think they were much apart from the famous scene in the movie. The whole area around the steps is nice, though, right down by the beaches.
I can't recommend L'viv enough. It's sort of a "hidden gem" (or was) and has fabulous architecture and feel.
architecture especially the Crimea, which was always part of Russia and there is a lot of the king's possessions
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:26 AM
 
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Comparing to what their nationalists did during WW2 - that's a nuisance.
I spoke about the present, to prohibit the Russian language, when half of the population is always talking I don't argue of course this policy.But it depends on them a lot.
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:08 AM
 
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I spoke about the present, to prohibit the Russian language, when half of the population is always talking I don't argue of course this policy.But it depends on them a lot.
It's a tyranny. Only a tiny percent of people support banning of Russian language, but others can't do anything - the government doesn't care what they think.
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:21 AM
 
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It's a tyranny. Only a tiny percent of people support banning of Russian language, but others can't do anything - the government doesn't care what they think.
Yes it is! I agree.So I say that it is unlikely that Ukraine the next 10 years 15 to join Russia.
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:36 AM
 
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Ukraine has struggled to be an independent state? With whom?With whom was the struggle for independence?
Ukraine has been dominated by Poland to the west and Russia to the east.
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:37 AM
 
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It's a criminally created country, populated by Russians.
How is it criminally created? Aren't Ukrainians a distinct people?
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:06 AM
 
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How is it criminally created? Aren't Ukrainians a distinct people?
You can call them "distinct."
The problem is - Russia started from Ukraine and there is no way around it. It's a hard cold truth, whether anyone likes it or not.
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:13 AM
 
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Ukraine has been dominated by Poland to the west and Russia to the east.
You kidding? Russia was not an obstacle for Ukraine.
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:13 AM
 
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You can call them "distinct."
The problem is - Russia started from Ukraine and there is no way around it. It's a hard cold truth, whether anyone likes it or not.
If this is so, then where does this leave Ukraine and Ukrainians? Ukrainians are a separate ethnicity with their own language. Ukrainians see themselves differently from Russians.
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