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Old 09-26-2012, 07:52 AM
 
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The fascist government and some brainwashed puppets are not Ukraine.
I can agree, but the destruction of the Russian language and to make all speak only Ukrainian, as it is called?
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Old 09-26-2012, 07:56 AM
 
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Ukraine was part of the Russian Empire. But I don't think that this will happen. There is a pattern, when Russia Good, Ukraine next, when bad she constantly betraying her that the lessons of history. I think that Ukraine has lost his dignity! Because of the fact that the linking of our culture together, today it eradicates at all. Puts the monuments of those who has always been an enemy of Ukraine and Russia. This is ridiculous. Now with Belarus Yes.
Ukraine WAS part of the Russian Empire. However, Ukraine sees itself as a distinct nation. It fought to be an independent nation.

How would you say Ukraine has lost its dignity?
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Old 09-26-2012, 07:57 AM
 
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Because the divide makes no economic and social sense.
Isn't Ukraine its own nation?
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Old 09-26-2012, 07:58 AM
 
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Oops! I meant that message to be for Nikolay.
My bad.
You should go to Ukraine one day; fabulous place. Hit up Odessa when the weather's right
I want to see the Potemkin Stairs.
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:00 AM
 
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Ukraine WAS part of the Russian Empire. However, Ukraine sees itself as a distinct nation. It fought to be an independent nation.

How would you say Ukraine has lost its dignity?
Ukraine has struggled to be an independent state? With whom?With whom was the struggle for independence?
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:07 AM
 
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You know, Russia is very much gave to the former republics, and Ukraine is no exception in this, but thanks 0. But today many of the world's demand from Russia, and it gave debts. Why they do not require from these republics? Russia in structure of the USSR was the poorest Republic, for the reason that helping others live, but not himself, but today it should all interesting. But how honest Russia pays debts to the USSR itself. Last it was Cuba.
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:13 AM
 
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I want to see the Potemkin Stairs.
They are big...stairs. Kidding, not trying to be trite, but I didn't think they were much apart from the famous scene in the movie. The whole area around the steps is nice, though, right down by the beaches.
I can't recommend L'viv enough. It's sort of a "hidden gem" (or was) and has fabulous architecture and feel.
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:17 AM
 
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Why has lost dignity? as said russiaonline is ... For the reason that we have common history and we are family, but their policy, all that is connected with Russia, ie its roots, destroys. rewrites history, destroys the Russian language and prohibits, absurd requirement, is erecting monuments to those who have always been enemies and caused so much harm to the Ukraine and Russia, but put them as heroes of the country. Dancing to the tune of the West, trying to do all that it took to himself, if this destroys the friends that she always helped and will help
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:18 AM
 
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I can agree, but the destruction of the Russian language and to make all speak only Ukrainian, as it is called?
Comparing to what their nationalists did during WW2 - that's a nuisance.
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:19 AM
 
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Isn't Ukraine its own nation?
It's a criminally created country, populated by Russians.
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