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Old 02-11-2015, 12:57 AM
 
Location: Florence/Prato 43,49 N
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Originally Posted by Mmega View Post
What's your agenda with this harassment? Still on about your black girlfriend not being considered 100% ethnic English.
This is rude.

I don t like this comment

 
Old 02-11-2015, 01:01 AM
 
Location: Florence/Prato 43,49 N
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Originally Posted by saxonwold View Post
Colin Farrel looks "Celtic", dark Celtic look. However he doesn't look typically Italian. Though he has dark hair, hazel and a skin type III. His phenotype is that of a mix between North-Atlantid and Brunn.




Alessandro Nesta would be your typical Italian, dark hair, brown eyes and a skin type IV. His phenotype is a Dinarid-Mediterranean.
Farrel has no Celtic look

Colin farrel is no lighter than most Italians.. He s on the median side, maybe lightly darker

Nesta is tanned, but our most frequent skin color is that of Colin farrel (you can see it from our football team, except recent immigrants obviously like balotelli)

However yes.. We have indigenous people also skin type IV. Nesta maybe is on the iv side..going on it. True iv would be someone like magnini (even him btw he s costantly tanned)

Last edited by julia90; 02-11-2015 at 01:16 AM..
 
Old 02-11-2015, 03:03 AM
 
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This is rude.

I don t like this comment
I'm sorry if I offended you, but there is a context here. Every time there is a discussion of hair or eye pigment, Easthome predictably chimes in with a full hissy fit. He strongly feels such topics shouldn't be discussed because they're irrelevant. He thinks there's either no such thing as a native species, or native also includes all later arrivals. My initial response was based on how I thought he was rude to you, calling you a narrow minded Victorian, just because you brought up Anglo-Saxons as a main English ancestor. He's especially touchy about his girlfriend who is half white native Anglo and half black immigrant. According to him she's 100% native English genetic bloodline. So therefore we see him showing up in a rage whenever British phenotypes are discussed, whenever it's assumed native English are Caucasian.

Are number 9 and number 4 native Italians

Is this woman a genetic native of South Africa
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/image...safangetty.jpg
Are palm trees "native" to Ireland
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...0f565ebad5.jpg
Maybe it wouldn't be PC or even a little racist (against trees) to say those palms in the form they're in, are not native to Ireland.
 
Old 02-11-2015, 03:23 AM
 
Location: Florence/Prato 43,49 N
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No..balotelli and ogbonna are native of subsaharian africa.
It s visibile..tere Is a sharp contrat of them and our native people; Because they are not in our graduale cline.
If you tell me.. Could a libanese be native italian.. (He a not but..) ..but elbane se are only slightly armerina than us and the are on our darkest native spectrum. So we could Say they could pass as native.

Do spaniards pass as natives ? Definitely yes.

Today black are recent immigrants..no more than 15-20 years here.

In a multi ethnic or amalgamare society here or in the next century they will be considered in our native range of looks.

It needs time to integration on looks and amalgamation.

This withouth Being racist.

If i go to china i could never pass as native; same if i go to Nigeria; same if i go to germany.

If i go to usa i can pass as native; if i go to puerto rico i can oasi as native; if i go to kazakhstan i can pass as native
 
Old 02-11-2015, 03:37 AM
 
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Originally Posted by saxonwold View Post
Colin Farrel looks "Celtic", dark Celtic look. However he doesn't look typically Italian. Though he has dark hair, hazel and a skin type III. His phenotype is that of a mix between North-Atlantid and Brunn.




Alessandro Nesta would be your typical Italian, dark hair, brown eyes and a skin type IV. His phenotype is a Dinarid-Mediterranean.
I'd almost say Farrell has skin type IV. He's outside of the typical range in Ireland, but statistically you will find a small percentage of that type there. You will see this type in small percentages in other northern Europe countries such as the Netherlands
Bas Rutten
http://fitnessrxformen.com/wp-conten...Bas-Ruten.jpeg
http://mmafury.com/wp-content/upload...smodeling3.jpg
Marco Van Basten
http://www.conti-online.com/generato...y=original.jpg
http://sportgeschiedenis.nl/userfiles/vanbasten.jpg
Ruud Van Nistelrooy
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...istelrooy3.jpg
http://www.images99.com/i99/02/68094/68094.jpg
 
Old 02-11-2015, 03:56 AM
 
Location: Florence/Prato 43,49 N
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Bas rutten i consider him light.. Skin type III going on II
Marco van vasten Is III, in our dark brown spectrum but in the lightest side of it. He look like Massimiliano allegri in pigmentation
Ruud van nistelroy Is III, the darkest of them, he could pass perfectly as tuscan he s in our standard median range; but we got native darker people..of course
 
Old 02-11-2015, 04:10 AM
 
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Originally Posted by julia90 View Post
No..balotelli and ogbonna are native of subsaharian africa.
It s visibile..tere Is a sharp contrat of them and our native people; Because they are not in our graduale cline.
If you tell me.. Could a libanese be native italian.. (He a not but..) ..but elbane se are only slightly armerina than us and the are on our darkest native spectrum. So we could Say they could pass as native.

Do spaniards pass as natives ? Definitely yes.

Today black are recent immigrants..no more than 15-20 years here.

In a multi ethnic or amalgamare society here or in the next century they will be considered in our native range of looks.

It needs time to integration on looks and amalgamation.

This withouth Being racist.

If i go to china i could never pass as native; same if i go to Nigeria; same if i go to germany.

If i go to usa i can pass as native; if i go to puerto rico i can oasi as native; if i go to kazakhstan i can pass as native
If you're Italian I don't think you'd pass as native in Puerto Rico, or Kazakstan. But it's interesting how you mention how Spanish might pass as Italian, even if they're not ethnically Italian. Spanish have similar complexions but a different look, yet the similarities outweigh the differences enough that they would integrate more easily as compared to other nationalities. Take for example Rob Stein who's German English.
http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/food/ic/food..._stein_1x1.jpg
He's not ethnically English, but easily passes and even looks English. Or Norwegian English Roald Dahl
http://cdn2.hubspot.net/hub/237126/f...roald_dahl.jpg
http://www.scorton.lancs.sch.uk/imag...ald%20Dahl.jpg
Easily integrates as a Brit, especially a look you'd see in Scotland, despite not having ancestry there. Through the centuries, the later immigrants were generally from areas similar in genetic stock, yet this for some is a cause to include everyone from all areas of the world to be thought of in the same manner.

Last edited by Mmega; 02-11-2015 at 04:22 AM..
 
Old 02-11-2015, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Florence/Prato 43,49 N
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Yes....I agree. In the past immigration was 99% by geographic proximity
 
Old 02-11-2015, 07:44 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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Originally Posted by Mmega View Post
I'm sorry if I offended you, but there is a context here. Every time there is a discussion of hair or eye pigment, Easthome predictably chimes in with a full hissy fit. He strongly feels such topics shouldn't be discussed because they're irrelevant. He thinks there's either no such thing as a native species, or native also includes all later arrivals. My initial response was based on how I thought he was rude to you, calling you a narrow minded Victorian, just because you brought up Anglo-Saxons as a main English ancestor. He's especially touchy about his girlfriend who is half white native Anglo and half black immigrant. According to him she's 100% native English genetic bloodline. So therefore we see him showing up in a rage whenever British phenotypes are discussed, whenever it's assumed native English are Caucasian.

Are number 9 and number 4 native Italians

Is this woman a genetic native of South Africa
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/image...safangetty.jpg
Are palm trees "native" to Ireland
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...0f565ebad5.jpg
Maybe it wouldn't be PC or even a little racist (against trees) to say those palms in the form they're in, are not native to Ireland.
Stop making things up! Kindly show me where I have EVER said this! I am simply pointing out just how 'related' we all are, nobody is answering my question, perhaps you can tell me how many of Julia's 2 million + direct ancestors came from her village?
 
Old 02-11-2015, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Florence/Prato 43,49 N
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All of them..since 1500.
(Based on all the surnames of my trisantenates)
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