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Old 01-06-2015, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Finland
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What is the percentage of Caucasians living in Vladivostok?
Looks like some 95% of the whole Republic is European.
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Old 01-06-2015, 11:15 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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What is the percentage of Caucasians living in Vladivostok?
The vast majority. It's a colonial city in that regard. There are many more Asians (mostly Native people) in Khabarovsk, to the north.
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Old 01-06-2015, 11:27 AM
 
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As it is all one land mass I would not call Vladivostok a colonial city. I know a Japanese girl and she said that there many Caucasian Russians in Tokyo with it being so close. It is odd that a Caucasians city is right in the middle of the Far East.
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Old 01-06-2015, 12:25 PM
 
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As it is all one land mass I would not call Vladivostok a colonial city. I know a Japanese girl and she said that there many Caucasian Russians in Tokyo with it being so close. It is odd that a Caucasians city is right in the middle of the Far East.
That's the colonial legacy. China and Japan didn't have that. Parts of SE Asia were at one time part of the British Empire, but the difference, and the reason there are no cities in that region where Caucasians dominate, is that the European empires were "overseas", and therefore more expensive and challenging to maintain. Russia's empire is contiguous with European Russia. So much easier for moving populations around, and maintaining control from Moscow. Also easier to disguise as not-an-empire.

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Old 01-06-2015, 04:40 PM
 
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As it is all one land mass I would not call Vladivostok a colonial city. I know a Japanese girl and she said that there many Caucasian Russians in Tokyo with it being so close. It is odd that a Caucasians city is right in the middle of the Far East.
It is not "colonial" in Western understanding of it.
The reason behind Russia being a contiguous empire, is that Russians were set on integrating the local population into "mainstream." Only those who were resistant to integration were destroyed/expelled from their lands.
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Old 01-06-2015, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Australia
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And Russians are...
Europeans or Asians?
Russians are Slavic Europeans.
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Old 01-06-2015, 06:10 PM
 
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Russians are Slavic Europeans.
Therefore Vladivostok is a European city - this would be my answer.
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Old 01-07-2015, 02:19 AM
 
Location: London
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That's the colonial legacy. China and Japan didn't have that. Parts of SE Asia were at one time part of the British Empire, but the difference, and the reason there are no cities in that region where Caucasians dominate, is that the European empires were "overseas", and therefore more expensive and challenging to maintain. Russia's empire is contiguous with European Russia. So much easier for moving populations around, and maintaining control from Moscow. Also easier to disguise as not-an-empire.
The Russian Far East is no more a colony than California is.
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Therefore Vladivostok is a European city - this would be my answer.
An "ethnic" European city. The city is in the Far East.
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Old 01-07-2015, 12:18 PM
 
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The Russian Far East is no more a colony than California is.
All of North America is a colony. The Slavic homeland is in Europe. Asia is a different continent. Russia colonized north Asia. There are plenty of books for you to read that explain this. Just because north Asia is contiguous to Russia doesn't mean colonialism didn't happen there.

Q. Was Russia at one time a colony of Mongolia? Or was it an integral part of Greater Mongolia?
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Old 01-07-2015, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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The land around Vladivostok is called Outer Manchuria and it was a Tungusic Jurchen (later Manchu) city under heavy influence of Chinese culture. No one really cares about the damn cold northern Siberia land except Russian. To convert it into an Russian colony, they killed and expelled most of the native people during late 19th century. It's not rocket science and you can find loads of historical literature with a little dig.
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