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Old 10-14-2012, 03:12 PM
 
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Jeff, you can post pics of many nice (but cherry-picked) schools, and I can post pics of comparable Russian schools - but what's the point?

100% of public schools in Russia are being upgraded to this "educational model":


Нов‹е с‚анда€‚‹ об€азования для сов€еменной ˆкол‹ - YouTube


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School #2030, Moscow:

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Old 10-14-2012, 03:23 PM
 
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Gymnasium #1, seems to be some kind of a hybrid Norwegian-Russian high school in Murmansk. Didn't find any good quality interior pictures with my very limited russian skills.
Its website moved, but without pics.
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Old 10-14-2012, 03:34 PM
 
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I'd be one of those Russians immigrants trashing American public schools that Russiaonline has mentioned, but what it has got to do with all these pictures???
(Besides, I was comparing American public schools with Soviet system of education, while I've heard lately that Russian public education has been Americanized, and that means that it's not all much better than American public education now.)
In fact Russians are aware that Putin and Medvedev are digging the grave for Russian system of education, leaving less and less subjects that they deem necessary for children to get for free.
So I have no idea what all these glitzy pictures are all about and whether they make any sense.
I don't care much how the classroom looks, really. What I care about is what kind of system of education, the approach to it is used in schools. That's what really matter, not some marching bands or football teams, really...
totally agree. As for the changes they are not as obvious as they say, things in any case was more, but I have heard that students in some subjects deepen themselves will choose.
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Old 10-14-2012, 03:50 PM
 
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I've yet to see a single terrible looking public school from MN
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Old 10-14-2012, 04:32 PM
 
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I've yet to see a single terrible looking public school from MN
I'm supposed to post the best Russian schools here.

I'll post a bit of the worst... Clips that kids made for graduation:

11V class, 2011, School #48, Vladivostok:


Школьный клип 11 В Школа 48 Владивосток Выпуск 2011 - YouTube

Same school, class 11A:


Школьный клип 11 А Школа 48 Владивосток Выпуск 2011 - YouTube

Same school, some class of 2012:


Школьный клип Школа 48 Владивосток Выпуск 2012 - YouTube

11A class, 2012, School #78, Vladivostok:


Школьный клип 11 А Школа 78 Владивосток Выпуск 2012 - YouTube
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Old 10-14-2012, 04:39 PM
 
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I'd be one of those Russians immigrants trashing American public schools that Russiaonline has mentioned, but what it has got to do with all these pictures???
(Besides, I was comparing American public schools with Soviet system of education, while I've heard lately that Russian public education has been Americanized, and that means that it's not all much better than American public education now.)
In fact Russians are aware that Putin and Medvedev are digging the grave for Russian system of education, leaving less and less subjects that they deem necessary for children to get for free.
So I have no idea what all these glitzy pictures are all about and whether they make any sense.
I don't care much how the classroom looks, really. What I care about is what kind of system of education, the approach to it is used in schools. That's what really matter, not some marching bands or football teams, really...
I wish Russia would stop Americanizing everything. That's really stupid. A waste of opportunity. If they're going to "modernize", or restructure, or whatever they want to call it, they should study successful school systems around the West and Japan.
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Old 10-14-2012, 04:54 PM
 
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Cadet schools in Moscow, St Petersburg, Ussuriisk:


Russian military girls with AK-47s: Ready to protect - YouTube


Чем суворовец отличается от школьника - YouTube


Добро пожаловать в Санкт Петербургское суворовское военное училище - YouTube


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Old 10-14-2012, 05:04 PM
 
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A school that, according to Jeff, lacks a lot of something - unfortunately he didn't bother saying what exactly:

Gymnasium #1, Vladivostok


Gymnasium N1 (Vladivostok). Russia and Germany: always together :-) - YouTube
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Old 10-14-2012, 05:06 PM
 
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I wish Russia would stop Americanizing everything. That's really stupid. A waste of opportunity. If they're going to "modernize", or restructure, or whatever they want to call it, they should study successful school systems around the West and Japan.
Oh but West is socialist; Putin and Co wouldn't want to have any of it; why do you think they loved American idea of "big business rules"? On top of that what other country in developed world accepts the kind of gap between the rich and poor as it exists in the US? Another big plus in the eyes of New Russians.
The similar problems with Asian migrant workers, ( illegal immigration) in big Russian cities, the refusal to give decent education in public schools for free - it all sounds very familiar. Add to that Pharisee Russian Orthodox Church instead of Salvation Army and other charitable US organizations, and you have a recipe for disaster called "post-Soviet Russia."
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Old 10-14-2012, 05:42 PM
 
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Oh but West is socialist; Putin and Co wouldn't want to have any of it; why do you think they loved American idea of "big business rules"? On top of that what other country in developed world accepts the kind of gap between the rich and poor as it exists in the US? Another big plus in the eyes of New Russians.
The similar problems with Asian migrant workers, ( illegal immigration) in big Russian cities, the refusal to give decent education in public schools for free - it all sounds very familiar. Add to that Pharisee Russian Orthodox Church instead of Salvation Army and other charitable US organizations, and you have a recipe for disaster called "post-Soviet Russia."
The system will not Western in any way. Otherwise it is a big mistake. Western education limits people to think in broad Spector. one word puppet. people are good only in the narrow spectra and this completes the western education. I believe that an educated person should know At least minimal knowledge in various fields and have to know the history, biology, geography, political science, sociology - At least these items....
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