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Old 11-03-2012, 04:51 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Would it really be so bad if Chechnya gained independence? What are the pros and cons? Why has there been so much resistance in Moscow to this? What a tiny, landlocked country would do for economic development is Chechnya's problem. Why has this issue been such a big deal, recently and historically? What about Dagestan, it has a coastline, they could have a good import-export business. Is there any advantage for Russia to hang on to these territories?
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Old 11-03-2012, 05:59 PM
 
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Would it really be so bad if Chechnya gained independence?
Semantics aside - ( gas/oil routs, geopolitical interests) I'd use for now only one word; Beslan.
That describes pretty well who/what is behind the separatist movement.
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Old 11-03-2012, 08:01 PM
 
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Semantics aside - ( gas/oil routs, geopolitical interests) I'd use for now only one word; Beslan.
That describes pretty well who/what is behind the separatist movement.
So separatism is sort of a false issue, hiding another agenda?
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Old 11-03-2012, 08:42 PM
 
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So separatism is sort of a false issue, hiding another agenda?
The way I see it - separation has a thinly veiled agenda of radical Islam first of all.
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Old 11-03-2012, 08:42 PM
 
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In my opinion separatism is a false issue - the real agenda is the promulgation of islam - or more accurately - sharia law.
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Old 11-04-2012, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine
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I think not so. In Russia many republics practise Islam, but the question of separatism is shown only in one-two, well can three. And only Tatarstan is serious in this question. Chechnya and Dagestan it not separatism, is game in separatism, actually to them very favourably is in structure of Russia as the budgetary receipts from Moscow many times over exceed economy of these republics.
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Old 11-04-2012, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Zagreb, Croatia
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Russia with its reborn strength and importance simply cannot let some tiny nations challenge its greatness.

It is so interesting region, ancient and dynamic; even more complicated than the Balkans - and that's not easy. Also, there are some interesting developments in Grozny and Makhachkala in Russian football championship (Terek, Anzhi )
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Old 11-04-2012, 04:43 PM
 
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I think not so. In Russia many republics practise Islam, but the question of separatism is shown only in one-two, well can three. And only Tatarstan is serious in this question. Chechnya and Dagestan it not separatism, is game in separatism, actually to them very favourably is in structure of Russia as the budgetary receipts from Moscow many times over exceed economy of these republics.
What does Moscow get from Chechnya and Dagestan, that allow it to send so much money to those economies?

Tatarstan is serious because it has oil. It has a strong basis for an independent economy.
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Old 11-04-2012, 04:45 PM
 
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In my opinion separatism is a false issue - the real agenda is the promulgation of islam - or more accurately - sharia law.
Was this also the issue in previous eras of Russia's history? Chechnya has always wanted independence.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:13 PM
 
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What does Moscow get from Chechnya and Dagestan, that allow it to send so much money to those economies?

Tatarstan is serious because it has oil. It has a strong basis for an independent economy.
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A mountainous region, Chechnya has important oil deposits, as well as natural gas, limestone, gypsum, sulphur, and other minerals. Its mineral waters have made it a spa center. Major production includes oil, petrochemicals, oil-field equipment, foods, wines, and fruits.
Crisis in Chechnya

Dunno about "wines and fruits," but Chechnya does have oil...
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