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Old 11-03-2012, 10:29 PM
 
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He's referring to the republics that make up the Russ Federation? Or the newly independent republics?
He is referring to republics that were still comprising the Soviet Union back then.

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This is fascinating. Why was this rejected, rejected by whom?
From what I see here - it was frist rejected by Gorbachev who was under control of the CPSU and second time around - by Yeltsin, who was already in agreement with American advisers/IMF.


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Is there a book I can read about this?
I don't believe there is such book.
I'm simply piecing it together looking into Russian and English-speaking sources.
Yavlinsky seems to be an ultimate key witness to all these events.
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Old 11-03-2012, 10:51 PM
 
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Unfortunately, I fear too many Russians have been tainted by the 'democracy' of the 90s.
So, you mean they're allergic to the word "democracy" now? How sad.
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Old 11-03-2012, 10:52 PM
 
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Yavlinsky seems to be an ultimate key witness to all these events.
From what little you've posted, his plan sounds brilliant!
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Old 11-03-2012, 11:04 PM
 
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So, you mean they're allergic to the word "democracy" now? How sad.
My wife practically laughs when talking about "democracy in Russia". It's sad.
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Old 11-03-2012, 11:22 PM
 
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From what little you've posted, his plan sounds brilliant!
It might be so, but as I've already said earlier, as politician he is dead, because in Russian mind he is connected to Yetlsin and the 90ies.
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Old 11-03-2012, 11:23 PM
 
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My wife practically laughs when talking about "democracy in Russia". It's sad.
So it's not only older generation, but younger generation too...
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Old 11-03-2012, 11:39 PM
 
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It might be so, but as I've already said earlier, as politician he is dead, because in Russian mind he is connected to Yetlsin and the 90ies.
How tragic. Everything could have turned out so radically differently if somehow Yavlinsky could have managed to push himself forward. I don't know how anyone could trust Yeltsin. He's always struck me as looking very shifty.
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Old 11-03-2012, 11:44 PM
 
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How tragic. Everything could have turned out so radically differently if somehow Yavlinsky could have managed to push himself forward. I don't know how anyone could trust Yeltsin. He has a very dishonest look about him.
You don't know the story behind the rise of his "shining star," and what exactly made him "people's hero?"
practically overnight?

PS. and oh- Yavlinsky couldn't "push himself forward," because he was brushed off precisely by Washington/ IMF. He refused to do what they wanted Yeltsin to do - i.e he refused to be his chief economist under the circumstances. He had that much of a choice.
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Old 11-04-2012, 12:15 AM
 
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You don't know the story behind the rise of his "shining star," and what exactly made him "people's hero?"
practically overnight?
I remember that, but what was his background before then? What were his qualifications?
So, yet again, the US screws up royally and creates a monster by backing the wrong guy.
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:56 AM
 
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I remember that, but what was his background before then? What were his qualifications?
Hmm.. May be we have different things in mind, because what I am talking about has direct connection with his background.
So what in your mind made Yeltsin a hero overnight?
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