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Old 11-22-2012, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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Why would English visitors count? They are domestic travelers.

Anyway, as I said, regional UK cities are not really tourist destinations yet , they are overshadowed by London - places like Manchester have nearly 1 million visitors annually though, so they are certainly getting there. In a few years, Manchester will probably overtake Edinburgh as the UK's second most visited city.
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Turku, Finland
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From the Helsinki tourism website

""the city should be able to attract more repeat visitors. Now an estimated 85 - 90 per cent of foreign travellers are in Helsinki for the first time, and they generally leave it at that"

And helsinki and Glasgow have nearly identical overnight stays per year.

So Scotland can't count English visitors, fair dos, but I wonder what portion of helsinki's "international" visitors are Russian????
Again, Helsinki is making no claim of being Europe's hottest tourist spot, while Glasgow is. So aside from the fact that Helsinki is cleaner, safer, and filled with more attractive people, I'm not sure what it's got to do with Glasgow being a crap place to visit.
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Finland
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So Scotland can't count English visitors, fair dos, but I wonder what portion of helsinki's "international" visitors are Russian????
All the numbers are in the pdf-file...

305,754 Russia, 175,834 Germany, 140,106 UK, 132,471 Sweden, 118,637 US. There's the countries with more than 100,000. And Russians are indeed very foreign, they need a visa.

1,542,952 domestic travellers, not much less than Glasgow.
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Old 11-22-2012, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Turku, Finland
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Why would English visitors count? They are domestic travelers.

Anyway, as I said, regional UK cities are not really tourist destinations yet , they are overshadowed by London - places like Manchester have nearly 1 million visitors annually though, so they are certainly getting there. In a few years, Manchester will probably overtake Edinburgh as the UK's second most visited city.
Manchester and its surrounds can at least claim to offer the visitor great opportunities to follow the legacy of great, great, world class music and see newcomers in live venues. Bring back the Wigan Casino and Hacienda.

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Old 11-22-2012, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Turku, Finland
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You should definitely calm down... That wasn't a personal attack against you, the citizens of Glasgow or Scots in general. He just said, that Glasgow isn't his cup of tea. And I'm sure a lot of zpeople would agree. He even said, that he is really fond of other places in your country...

And with that statement about Finland you are just making yourself look stupid...
It certainly wasn't a personal attack against paul, but I am definitely making a negative judgement against the citizens of Glasgow. That place is a pit of dispair precisely because of the people who live there. Never a place with so many yellow-toothed, leather-faced goons. And what do you expect from a place where some neighbourhoods have a life expectancy that would embarrass Burkina Faso?

Tourists be advised: when you see a bunch of them huddled together on the sidewalk smoking under a red "T" sign, that "T" doesn't indicate "Tourists Welcome".
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Old 11-23-2012, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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Your posts are definitely too harsh - Glasgow has its fair share of scum, in fact, I'd say there is a surplus of such people, but it definitely does have areas where you can pretty much avoid these people - Glasgow's West End is affluent and leafy, not only that, but Glasgow contains some of UK's most affluent areas - it would be interesting to know where in Glasgow you went, and where you spent most of your time, I've been to Glasgow myself and I've never been the victim of abuse.
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Old 11-23-2012, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Scotland
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Again, Helsinki is making no claim of being Europe's hottest tourist spot, while Glasgow is. So aside from the fact that Helsinki is cleaner, safer, and filled with more attractive people, I'm not sure what it's got to do with Glasgow being a crap place to visit.
Glasgow isn't claiming anything, TripAdvisor is. A expert in the field and with a good reputation.
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Old 11-23-2012, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Gorgeous Scotland
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Again, Helsinki is making no claim of being Europe's hottest tourist spot, while Glasgow is. So aside from the fact that Helsinki is cleaner, safer, and filled with more attractive people, I'm not sure what it's got to do with Glasgow being a crap place to visit.
You are so full of sh*t. You twist around everything to suit your crappy arguments. Nobody, including, the article said that Glasgow was Europe's hottest tourist spot, or a New hot spot. It's one of the fastest-growing. That's all it said.
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Old 11-23-2012, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Gorgeous Scotland
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Your posts are definitely too harsh - Glasgow has its fair share of scum, in fact, I'd say there is a surplus of such people, but it definitely does have areas where you can pretty much avoid these people - Glasgow's West End is affluent and leafy, not only that, but Glasgow contains some of UK's most affluent areas - it would be interesting to know where in Glasgow you went, and where you spent most of your time, I've been to Glasgow myself and I've never been the victim of abuse.
I visit frequently as it's only an hour and half from where I live. I've never had any problems, but then unlike the Finnish b**tard, I don't go into the scumbag areas. Actually, I think he'd probably fit right in with those areas.
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Old 11-23-2012, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Turku, Finland
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You are so full of sh*t. You twist around everything to suit your crappy arguments. Nobody, including, the article said that Glasgow was Europe's hottest tourist spot, or a New hot spot. It's one of the fastest-growing. That's all it said.
And if you had 100 visitors this year and 50 visitors last year, guess what? You'd probably have the fastest-growing tourist spot in Europe too.
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