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Old 12-10-2016, 10:41 AM
 
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If anything Denmark should merge with the Scandinavian countries, they are more similar.

But I don't think that should happen. Scandinavian countries have the highest quality of life in the world. Why fix something that isn't broken? Smaller populations are easier to manage.
easy to manage, but lack the economy of scale. The EU wants to put everyone together only to have the competitiveness to compete with US, China etc.

Only large countries have the resources to do a lot of things. Is it possible to Sweden to have a successful aviation company? Not likely. A larger population, economy and market have more benefits than the inconvenience. If China had 30 million people, nobody would give a damn what it does or does not do.
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Old 12-10-2016, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Russia
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Europe needs another Napoleon.
Maybe Putin is suitable for this?
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Old 12-10-2016, 12:16 PM
 
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Maybe Putin is suitable for this?
I never consider Russia to be European. For me Europe ends at Finland, Belarus and Bulgaria. Russia is in its own universe.
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Old 12-10-2016, 12:23 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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I never consider Russia to be European. For me Europe ends at Finland, Belarus and Bulgaria. Russia is in its own universe.
I don't think Napoleon saw it that way.
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Old 12-10-2016, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Russia
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I never consider Russia to be European. For me Europe ends at Finland, Belarus and Bulgaria. Russia is in its own universe.
You are wrong.
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Old 12-10-2016, 02:19 PM
 
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You are wrong.
of course I am wrong. That's just my interpretation, that's all.

And I meant it as a compliment to Russia. Russia is too big to be lumped with a bunch of tiny nations. Plus, RUssia is not all Europe, that's true.
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Old 12-10-2016, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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I never consider Russia to be European. For me Europe ends at Finland, Belarus and Bulgaria. Russia is in its own universe.
What makes Belarus more European than Russia? They're almost indistinguishable, everybody basically speaks Russian there and the president Lukashenko is probably even more authoritarian than Putin.
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Old 12-10-2016, 02:31 PM
 
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What makes Belarus more European than Russia? They're almost indistinguishable, everybody basically speaks Russian there and the president Lukashenko is probably even more authoritarian than Putin.
that's completely true. Belarus is basically Russia. I don't know why it exists.

I like tough leaders such as Putin by the way. His existence annoys many brainwashed westners, but pleases me. What is better is that he will still be around for a loooog time. The next US and Frence president both expressed willingness to work with him. Great news for the world.
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Old 12-10-2016, 03:41 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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that's completely true. Belarus is basically Russia. I don't know why it exists.

I like tough leaders such as Putin by the way. His existence annoys many brainwashed westners, but pleases me. What is better is that he will still be around for a loooog time. The next US and Frence president both expressed willingness to work with him. Great news for the world.
lol! That's so funny! Sometimes these discussions devolve into the absurd. I get your point, but it's still funny.

And don't assume anything yet about the "next US President". Wait until December 20, when the Electoral College people cast their votes. It's not over until the fat lady sings. Remember that.
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Old 12-10-2016, 05:28 PM
 
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No benefit - the people and citizens would benefit.

And gosh, no. Don't give it to Lithuania. I really think it should gain independence. Economically it's just far outperforming its neighbors. It's not a big deal if its culturally similar to Russia - many countries culturally similar to another gained independence. Iceland from Denmark. Cuba from Spain. Why? For the benefit of the people.

Russia is progressing slowly and Kaliningrad is progressing fastly - the people of Kaliningrad shouldn't feel the penalties of Russia's poor government. Nor the lack of EU activity. Russia has more than enough land. I used to think that Russia was a good country, while its certainly not bad, they need to pay more mind to human rights.

You should look into individual statistics for Russia's Moscow or Saint Petersburg, than Kaliningrad.
As someone who has been to both Iceland and Denmark, I can say that those two countries are not culturally similar aside from the fact that Iceland used to be a Danish colony at one point.
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