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In the Inequity Adjusted HDI - which is more reliable than the regular HSI, Estonia ranks 24, right below USA and Italy. That means the average Estonians pay, services, etc is on par with an average American or Italian.
I mostly agree with your point, but I have to be picky on the part above. If Estonia's "right below USA and Italy" in IHDI, that means things have to improve quite a bit before it can be truly considered "Nordic". At #24, it is actually closer to both Lithuania (#30) and Latvia (#33) than Finland (#11), let alone Norway (#1) and Sweden (#3). The IHDI ranking suggests that Estonia is a mix between "Nordic" and "(other) Baltic".
I mostly agree with your point, but I have to be picky on the part above. If Estonia's "right below USA and Italy" in IHDI, that means things have to improve quite a bit before it can be truly considered "Nordic". At #24, it is actually closer to both Lithuania (#30) and Latvia (#33) than Finland (#11), let alone Norway (#1) and Sweden (#3). The IHDI ranking suggests that Estonia is a mix between "Nordic" and "(other) Baltic".
You're right there. I'm waiting for the 2012 IHDI to come out, it's already a month and a half late. I'm expecting to see Estonia go up a few, wages went up in the country on average, but it could also stay the same.
The Baltic label only signifies geographical proximity. Each country is very different from others, no point even trying to compare.
Estonia has a completely different language and heritage from all others listed. It's also the least religious country in the world whereas Poland is the most religious country in Europe.
Etc etc etc...
SO what's there to do there? Have a quick trip scheduled in January...Have to go to Juri......
Poland. As a Catholic, I have much more in common with the Polish culture (and Poland is close to Germany, which is also important for me as a German speaker).
And I don't like the anti Russian popular sentiment (which borders on racism)in the Baltic states...
Poland. As a Catholic, I have much more in common with the Polish culture (and Poland is close to Germany, which is also important for me as a German speaker).
And I don't like the anti Russian popular sentiment (which borders on racism)in the Baltic states...
Really, can you not understand the anti-Russian sentiment in the Baltics?
Estonia is lovely, go, walk around the cities.
It was part of the Hanseatic League and just lovely.
It will be bitter cold in January, but Talinn is stunning for a walk around.
I managed to be there for a music festival last summer.
Really, can you not understand the anti-Russian sentiment in the Baltics?
Estonia is lovely, go, walk around the cities.
It was part of the Hanseatic League and just lovely.
It will be bitter cold in January, but Talinn is stunning for a walk around.
I managed to be there for a music festival last summer.
... and it's also the most (and very seriously!) nazi country in Europe...
Yes, it's nazism/fascism is only towards Russia... if it makes somebody comfortable...
For me Poland is much more interesting. In part, because Baltic states in their current state were almost created by the SU - so they look way too similar to what I've seen all my life. And in part, because they are more in disarray - which leaves its mark.
... and it's also the most (and very seriously!) nazi country in Europe...
Yes, it's nazism/fascism is only towards Russia... if it makes somebody comfortable...
For me Poland is much more interesting. In part, because Baltic states in their current state were almost created by the SU - so they look way too similar to what I've seen all my life. And in part, because they are more in disarray - which leaves its mark.
If you're just traveling, are you really going to get caught up in the politics of an area.
I certainly don't.
I'd travel to Talinn and Riga if I had the choice.
I've been to Poland several times and it's starting to look like Western Europe with all of the German and French chain stores outside of every major city.
If you're just traveling, are you really going to get caught up in the politics of an area.
If you visit capitals, and stick to the nice places - they are all cool. Well, in Talinn you may stumble upon a nazi march or a monument - this may kill the mood for some people.
And as for living - Estonia is the poorest EU country, yet very expensive. And the conflict between Russians and Estonians may very well be noticeable.
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I've been to Poland several times and it's starting to look like Western Europe with all of the German and French chain stores outside of every major city.
I've never seen Auchan, Ikea or the like in tourist spots. And Baltic states have big stores too - subject to cities sizes.
If you visit capitals, and stick to the nice places - they are all cool. Well, in Talinn you may stumble upon a nazi march or a monument - this may kill the mood for some people.
And as for living - Estonia is the poorest EU country, yet very expensive. And the conflict between Russians and Estonians may very well be noticeable.
I've never seen Auchan, Ikea or the like in tourist spots. And Baltic states have big stores too - subject to cities sizes.
I spent several days in Estonia last year and didn't find it outrageously expensive.
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They have those stores as well as Obi, Real, etc, just outside of both Warsaw and Krakow.
If you're driving, you can't miss them.
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And Baltic states have big stores too - subject to cities sizes.
