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Old 12-08-2016, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Estonia
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if you measure it, Vienna is indeed in the centre east west wise.
More like some place in Belarus. If you look at the geographical center of Europe, Vienna is too much westwards.
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Old 12-08-2016, 03:16 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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hahaha

very few people would consider Finland a western Europe country. It simply is not. It is not a Scandinavian country either. The Finns don't even speak an Indo European language. Even Poland is more western European to me than Finland.

It is not meant to be an insult. It is just a geograghic fact. Politically? S Korea aligns with the west too, and it is not a west European country.
What's non-Western about Finland besides the language? Why would it be categorized differently than Sweden? Just because it's a little further east? That's not good enough to boot it out of the "Western" family. You gotta come up with something better.
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Old 12-08-2016, 03:21 PM
 
Location: United Kingdom
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More like some place in Belarus. If you look at the geographical center of Europe, Vienna is too much westwards.
Belarus is in Eastern Europe! Don't be daft!
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Old 12-08-2016, 03:39 PM
 
Location: United Kingdom
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What's non-Western about Finland besides the language? Why would it be categorized differently than Sweden? Just because it's a little further east? That's not good enough to boot it out of the "Western" family. You gotta come up with something better.
We're specifically talking about Western EUROPE, not the Western World.
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Old 12-08-2016, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Finland
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because it is located in the east of Europe?
Geographically yes. Culturally, historically, politically and socioeconomically not.
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Old 12-08-2016, 04:48 PM
 
Location: United Kingdom
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What history do you share with Britain, Ireland, France etc?
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Old 12-08-2016, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Finland
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What history do you share with Britain, Ireland, France etc?
Not that much with Ireland or Britain, but surely with the French. But BTW, the first bishop of Finland was most likely Henry, an Englishman.
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Old 12-08-2016, 05:07 PM
 
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Probably Czech Republic. The Czechs/Bohemians have long had a more "western" orientation.
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Old 12-08-2016, 05:40 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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We're specifically talking about Western EUROPE, not the Western World.
No, we are not talking specifically about Western Europe. We're talking about Eastern and Western Europe. I'm sorry you're struggling to keep up with the conversation.
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Old 12-09-2016, 02:31 AM
 
Location: Finland
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No, your country is up to 1,500 miles away from the Atlantic seaboard at Scotland/Ireland. You are too far east to be considered a part of Western Europe.

You can argue to the cows come home about Western Europe being a political classification but it still does not stand against your geographical position on the very extreme Eastern edge of Europe.
You can argue endlessly as well, as you clearly seem unable to grasp the geopolitical and cultural concept of Western Europe.

I can make up my classifications as well. How about NI not being Europe at all, as it is in the western hemisphere, while 99% of Europe is in the Eastern? Or how about not being Europe, as you're not a part of mainland Europe?
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