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Yes for Ukraine and Belarus, but the map highlights a bunch of countries as Eastern Europe which traditionally had a lot more and longer ties to German, Italian and Scandinavian kingdoms and principalities and generally followed either the Catholic or Protestant faiths rather than the Orthodox. Before the politically enforced schism of the Eastern Bloc and Western Europe during the Cold War there was a large Central Europe/Mitteleuropa regional name which made a lot more sense.
This. Central Europe always gets lumped in with Eastern Europe, while it's a distinctive region with long-standing historical ties to western Europe.
Western Roman Empire, Eastern Roman Empire and Terra Incognita.
I would include Roman Germania, Helvetia, Frisia, Britannia and Hibernia in the Western Roman Empire for cultural reasons. Tingitania, Mauretania, Lybia and Egipt would have to be excluded because culture and religion, though they the most prosperous provinces 1600 years ago.
Eastern Roman Empire would include all territories in the Eastern Roman Empire not invaded by barbarians. Invaded territories are Asia Minor - Ottomans, Tracia - Bulgars, Slavs - Dalmatia, Huns - Panonia.
Have a 4th category: "Baltica", with Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and Finland.
No. Latvia and Lithuania are as distant from Finland culturally, socially and politically as Greece or Portugal. At least when compared to Sweden, Norway or Germany.
Finland is not very Germanic either (not that I know what it means in this case), though the Hansa, modern Germany and German people in general have influenced our culture. Many people who 'mattered' in old times, like nobility, clergy, military and bourgeoisie were German or Swedish.
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Finnish is not Germanic, Estonian and Hungarian are not slavic. All three are Uralic.
I prefer the term Finno-Ugric, but that is just our language group. Culturally and socially Finland and Hungary aren't very close to each other. Of course due to the different historical development and influence from neighbouring countries.
But I don't really understand the constant need to classify the European countries by vague standards. Is it just to make things 'easier'? The history of Europe is so complex and diverse, that it's almost impossible to make a satisfactory classification. Restricting to recent history, economy and geographical location, is probably the only way.
I tell you what - divide Europe into three different categories by somewhat different definition;
Countries that were under German influence, countries that were under Russian influence and the rest, that managed to escape this fate.
There. Now it all starts falling into places))))
Have a 4th category: "Baltica", with Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and Finland.
Romania should be part of "Classica". Big mistake to call it "Slavic" just because it's in Eastern Europe. Same w/Moldova. Give Hungary it's own color.
Go, Basques!
This is how you respond to something you disargree with on a message board, with manners. Not "a dur dur another American with a silly question".
id add in anglo celtic as a grouping , the uk and ireland are quite different from germany , scandanavia , switzerland , netherlands etc
Indeed, but the point of this map was simply if I was to divide Europe into three parts, this is how I would think it would be best done.
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Same w/Moldova. Give Hungary it's own color.
