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In Germany there is a problem of "Russians". The majority of those "Russians" are Germans from Kazakhstan. They are not middle-class Russians.
From what I've read, the problem is certainly not about the Germans of Kazakhstan, but about "proper" Russians. That said, this "problem" isn't too big to begin with.
560,178 people in Germany were categorized as ethnic Russians
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Between 1992 and 2007, a total of 1,797,084 ethnic Germans from the former USSR emigrated to Germany. Of this 923,902 were from Kazakhstan, 693,348 were from Russia, 73,460 were from Kyrgyzstan, 40,560 from Ukraine, 27,035 from Uzbekistan, and 14,578 from Tajikistan.
So, the majority of them is from Central Asia.
And I think that the majority of these "proper" Russians are not the best one.
Well, I've read somewhere that both Turkish and "Russian" kids tend to bully other kids in school. That they are more aggressive.
From what I've read, the problem is certainly not about the Germans of Kazakhstan, but about "proper" Russians. That said, this "problem" isn't too big to begin with.
What have you read, it would be interesting to know.
Because I don't hear much about Russians in Germany or Austria ( unlike about them in Gr. Britain.)
I need my daily gossip.
I'm not European, so I don't have any skin in that game. But, Turkey European enough to join the EU? What crackpipe are people over there smoking? I can understand Albania, but Turkey? Might as well let Russia join, even the Russian Far East is more European than Turkey!
Geographically speaking Cyprus is closer to syrian coast than to any european country and Cyprus is member of the EU !!
Cyprus is located on the southeast side coast of Turkey.
I am afraid that if Turkey join the EU, some low-class people form Turkish or Kurdish villages will go directly to Berlin or Bruxelles.
In Moscow we have lots of people, who went from their Central Asian villages directly to Moscow. They don't go to THEIR capitals, they go directly to our capital.
So, these low-class Turks won't go to Istanbul. They go directly to Europe.
And middle-class Turks, who already have a good job will stay at home.
Middle-class people can feel themselves comfortable without immigration.
In Germany there is a problem of "Russians". The majority of those "Russians" are Germans from Kazakhstan. They are not middle-class Russians from Moscow.
So, it will be low-class people, who will go to European socialistic paradise.
Moscovite, the reason why Central Asians are moving in droves to Moscow ( not to their own capitals) is because of economy; it's suppressed in their own capitals, so there is no sense to move there, while Moscow ( or rather Moscow's rich) offer them jobs.
Believe me, back in Soviet day they were not moving anywhere ( Caucasians including,) - they were staying put in their own lands, but that's when their economies have been subsidized by Russia and ethnic tensions were at the lowest levels ( with Caucasians including.) In fact, Russians used to love Georgians; their movie actors/customs/food/dance/restaurants were quite popular in Moscow. You wouldn't see Central Asians/Azeris anywhere except for Central Markets ( so nobody cared about their presence,) and Northern Caucasians - you'd hardly hear about them/see them at all. ( God knows what they were doing in their own lands, since they were never agricultural places in particular to begin with.)
So in case with Turkey - it depends on how their economy is doing, but even if it's not doing too well, I don't see them migrating en mass from their villages to unknown and culturally foreign European capitals, that don't have too many jobs to offer as it is. So not exact situation with Central Asians and Moscow, because C.A historically had big Russian presence, and they flock to Moscow because of their old and recent memories alike, and because they used to rely on Russian authorities in the past. I don't think that Turks ( may be apart from Anatolia) have the same historic experience with European capitals.
Turkey does not feel or look European. If Islam was not the religion and culture then maybe...
It was annoying being asked in Istanbul whether I was Muslim or not.
No. This would just further ensnare the EU in problematic situations in all the unstable countries that border Turkey. Its a nightmare. I think the inclusion of Turkey in UEFA is more than enough.
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