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Old 01-19-2018, 08:28 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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I don't get it: You say that Paris is generally colder in most of the year than PNW (both winter and summer) and then say it is similar to the upper south (which I believe is warmer than the PNW for most of the year?)

Or maybe I read it wrong ?

In any case Paris is similar to Seattle but the rainfall is indeed more evenly distributed, even if of course there's more frequent rain during the cold season while summer has shorter and more intense events.

Rome is a mix of mediterranean and subtropical. It is muggier and wetter than californian climates in the summer, but not as much as, say, northern carolina. Winter is moderately cold.
Paris has pretty similar weather to London which is only a couple of hundred miles away and two hours on a train.
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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Paris has pretty similar weather to London which is only a couple of hundred miles away and two hours on a train.
which is not in North America, though.
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Old 01-19-2018, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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I don't get it: You say that Paris is generally colder in most of the year than PNW (both winter and summer) and then say it is similar to the upper south (which I believe is warmer than the PNW for most of the year?)

Or maybe I read it wrong ?
Maybe I wrote it wrong :-)

What I am trying to say is that Paris has more extremes of temperature (colder winter / warmer summer) like the upland South of the US, albeit with somewhat warmer summers in the upland South, while the Mid-Atlantic cities (in states like Pennsylvania and New York) are even more consisteny with western European temeratures as in Paris.

The PNW cities are comparatively milder in both seasons: mild, rarely cold winter / mild, rarely hot summer.

The Upland South cities do get warmer in summer, but they are consistently rainy and do get snow in winter wheras the PNW cities rarely see snow and have a distinct rainy season offset by mostly sunny, dry summers.

Some sample Upland South and Mid-Atlantic cities for comparison would be (warmer to colder): Lexington, Ky; Asheville, NC; Charleston, WV; Scranton, PA; Albany, NY

I will concede that this is splitting hairs depending on what criteria for climate similarity one places more weight upon.
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Old 01-19-2018, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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Maybe I wrote it wrong :-)

What I am trying to say is that Paris has more extremes of temperature (colder winter / warmer summer) like the upland South of the US, albeit with somewhat warmer summers in the upland South, while the Mid-Atlantic cities (in states like Pennsylvania and New York) are even more consisteny with western European temeratures as in Paris.

The PNW cities are comparatively milder in both seasons: mild, rarely cold winter / mild, rarely hot summer.

The Upland South cities do get warmer in summer, but they are consistently rainy and do get snow in winter wheras the PNW cities rarely see snow and have a distinct rainy season offset by mostly sunny, dry summers.

Some sample Upland South and Mid-Atlantic cities for comparison would be (warmer to colder): Lexington, Ky; Asheville, NC; Charleston, WV; Scranton, PA; Albany, NY

I will concede that this is splitting hairs depending on what criteria for climate similarity one places more weight upon.
Portland is more continental than Seattle and gets much stronger heat waves than Seattle does, and Portland's averages are also hotter than Paris.


City: record high | warmest avg high | warmest avg low |-| coldest avg high | coldest avg low | record low
Seattle: 103F (39C) | 76.3F (24.6C) | 55.9F (13.3C) |-| 45.7F (7.6C) | 35.6F (2C) | 0F (-18C)
Portland: 107F (42C) | 81.1F (27.3C) | 58F (14.4C) |-| 45.6F (7.6C) | 35.2F (1.8C) | -3F (-19C)

Paris: 104.7F (40.4C) | 77.4F (25.2C) | 60.4F (15.8C) |-| 45F (7.2C) | 36.9F (2.7C) | 5.7F (-14.6C)

Nashville: 109F (43C) | 97.1F (36.2C) | 69.5F (20.8C) |-| 46.9F (8.3C) | 28.4F (-2C) | -17F (-27C)
Charleston: 108F (42C) | 85.2F (29.6C) | 65.7F (18.7C) |-| 42.5F (5.8C) | 26.3F (-3.2C) | -17F (-27C)

I think it's pretty safe to say that Paris is most similar to Seattle and nothing like the upland south.

As for Rome, yeah there is nothing quite that similar, but something close probably exists in northern CA between Eureka and Willow Creek.

Eureka: 87F (31C) | 64.3F (17.9C) | 52.8F (11.6C) |-| 55F (12.8C) | 40.6F (4.8C) | 20F (-7C)
Willow Creek: 119F (48C) | 95.2F (35.1C) | 52.7F (11.5C) |-| 50.4F (10.2C) | 35.0F (1.7C) | 5F (-15C)
Average: 103F (39.5C) | 79.75F (26.5C) | 52.75F (1.55C) |-| 52.7F (11.5C) | 37.8F (3.25C) | 12.5F (-11C)
Rome: 105.1F (40.6C) | 87.1F (30.6C) | 64.9F (18.3C) |-| 53.4F (11.9C) | 37.6F (3.1C) | 12.2F (-11C)
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Old 01-20-2018, 12:09 PM
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Paris has pretty similar weather to London which is only a couple of hundred miles away and two hours on a train.
Paris has a temperate oceanic climate, as for which parts of the world it resembles just look at the map in the link below.

Oceanic climate - Wikipedia
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Old 01-21-2018, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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Maybe I wrote it wrong :-)

What I am trying to say is that Paris has more extremes of temperature (colder winter / warmer summer) like the upland South of the US, albeit with somewhat warmer summers in the upland South, while the Mid-Atlantic cities (in states like Pennsylvania and New York) are even more consisteny with western European temeratures as in Paris.

The PNW cities are comparatively milder in both seasons: mild, rarely cold winter / mild, rarely hot summer.

The Upland South cities do get warmer in summer, but they are consistently rainy and do get snow in winter wheras the PNW cities rarely see snow and have a distinct rainy season offset by mostly sunny, dry summers.

Some sample Upland South and Mid-Atlantic cities for comparison would be (warmer to colder): Lexington, Ky; Asheville, NC; Charleston, WV; Scranton, PA; Albany, NY

I will concede that this is splitting hairs depending on what criteria for climate similarity one places more weight upon.
Like Grega said, Paris is still a lot more similar to PNW than to the upland south due to the relatively cool summers and winters generally devoid of strong cold waves for long periods, although it might be more prone to short continental spells than Seattle is.

The upland south is a lot more similar to where I live really.

BTW the data above is a bit strange, Nashville's average high is 31.8c, not 36.2c (which the mean maximum)- Record low for Paris is also much lower than that, but very old too.
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Old 01-21-2018, 07:43 PM
 
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Like Grega said, Paris is still a lot more similar to PNW than to the upland south due to the relatively cool summers and winters generally devoid of strong cold waves for long periods, although it might be more prone to short continental spells than Seattle is.

The upland south is a lot more similar to where I live really.

BTW the data above is a bit strange, Nashville's average high is 31.8c, not 36.2c (which the mean maximum)- Record low for Paris is also much lower than that, but very old too.
Oh thanks for catching that, yeah sorry I accidentally used the mean max, whoops
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Old 01-22-2018, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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Yeah, no problem. Even if they're hot, a 36c average high for July seemed pretty extreme especially considering they can get pretty humid...
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Old 01-22-2018, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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Portland is more continental than Seattle and gets much stronger heat waves than Seattle does, and Portland's averages are also hotter than Paris.




Nashville: 109F (43C) | 97.1F (36.2C) | 69.5F (20.8C) |-| 46.9F (8.3C) | 28.4F (-2C) | -17F (-27C)
Charleston: 108F (42C) | 85.2F (29.6C) | 65.7F (18.7C) |-| 42.5F (5.8C) | 26.3F (-3.2C) | -17F (-27C)

I think it's pretty safe to say that Paris is most similar to Seattle and nothing like the upland south.
Temperature is only one aspect of climate. My personal opinion is that rainfall distribution is just as important a consideration as temperature range and averages. It is fine if you disagree, as that is only my opinion.

I also happen to find that the general ecology of central France, a direct reflection of climate, strongly resembles the central and northern Appalachians with its deciduous oak and beech forests.


Source:http://c8.alamy.com/comp/BTYM0J/fren...ear-BTYM0J.jpg
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