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Old 08-02-2013, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Finland
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Same here, and that's how I vote too. According to the Political Compass I'm bordering on communism, though
Yeah, They show some surprising results... Don't tell Joe McCarthy your results, tho.

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Old 08-02-2013, 04:45 PM
 
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According to the table, I'm a similar leftist like Hugo Chavez or Benedict XVI?!
I rather consider myself some kind of a moderate, liberal Conservative....


And even worse...the test scares me
Is Oleg Bach right and it's all in the genes?

1.) You are a fascist. You combine a strong belief in the nation with authoritarian social values, and a willingness to impose your views upon others. You strongly oppose immigration, and are willing to take radical action to combat it. (100%)

2.) You are a Christian democrat - or, in the UK, a "One Nation conservative"; in other words, although you share the usual conservative belief in stability and duty, you believe that such duties include a responsibility on the part of the better-off to help those who are less fortunate. You will be socially conservative, but in favour of a mixed economy where the state does have a role in providing public services. Christian democracy arose after World War II, succeeding more doctrinaire Catholic parties dating from the 1870s. (94%)

3.) You adhere to the Third Way. The Third Way is a fairly nebulous concept, but it rests on the idea of combining economic efficiency - i.e. a market economy with some intervention - with social responsibility. The focus is emphatically on the community as a whole, and not necessarily equality per se. Adherents of the Third Way range from moderate to conservative in their social views, and have recently been willing to take a "tough" line on a range of social issues. (80%)




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Old 08-02-2013, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Finland
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1.) You are a fascist. You combine a strong belief in the nation with authoritarian social values, and a willingness to impose your views upon others. You strongly oppose immigration, and are willing to take radical action to combat it. (100%)
It's ok to be a fascist if you exclude all that race crap. Fascism is a completely solid ideology if its' vaues are adjusted to the 21st century. Not that I'll endorse that, but I tolerate fascism if you're not racist.
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Old 08-02-2013, 06:15 PM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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It's ok to be a fascist if you exclude all that race crap. Fascism is a completely solid ideology if its' vaues are adjusted to the 21st century. Not that I'll endorse that, but I tolerate fascism if you're not racist.
Are you serious? I consider fascism to be the biggest danger a country could ever face. You seem to be a reasonable person so I can't imagine how you could view fascism as a "completely solid ideology".

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Hostile to liberal democracy, socialism, and communism, fascist movements share certain common features, including the veneration of the state, a devotion to a strong leader, and an emphasis on ultranationalism and militarism. Fascism views political violence, war, and imperialism as a means to achieve national rejuvenation[3][6][7][8] and asserts that stronger nations have the right to obtain land and resources by displacing weaker nations.[9]
I would never want to live in a country where fascist ideology is thought of as acceptable, let alone preferable.
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Old 08-02-2013, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Finland
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Are you serious? I consider fascism to be the biggest danger a country could ever face. You seem to be a reasonable person so I can't imagine how you could view fascism as a "completely solid ideology".

I would never want to live in a country where fascist ideology is thought of as acceptable, let alone preferable.
I guessed I'd have to explain this. I accept and tolerate people having fascist beliefs, but no way in hell that I would accept my country of having a fascist government. All means that threaten democracy has to be hampered, but if an individual is having such beliefs, let him/her, if the person is not a danger to democracy.

But, I don't think of fascism and corporatism as inherently evil if it's civilized, but a threat to democracy, yes, and I don't want anything of that near me. "Liberal Fascism" doesn't work and all countries has had bad experiences with fascism which has implemented it. But as an utopian dream version, it could work, and therefore might be a solid ideology.
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Old 08-02-2013, 07:50 PM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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I guessed I'd have to explain this. I accept and tolerate people having fascist beliefs, but no way in hell that I would accept my country of having a fascist government. All means that threaten democracy has to be hampered, but if an individual is having such beliefs, let him/her, if the person is not a danger to democracy.

But, I don't think of fascism and corporatism as inherently evil if it's civilized, but a threat to democracy, yes, and I don't want anything of that near me. "Liberal Fascism" doesn't work and all countries has had bad experiences with fascism which has implemented it. But as an utopian dream version, it could work, and therefore might be a solid ideology.
I tolerate fascist beliefs only as such that I will defend people's right to express them (ironically, fascists would not extend that same favour to those who oppose them).

Any ideology that threatens personal freedom and democracy is inherently evil, in my opinion. The very foundations of fascism - a veneration of the state above all else, blind obedience to an all-powerful leader, jingoism - are huge dangers to society. I can't think of any fascist state in the history of the world that is superior to the liberal democracies we live in now.

What is a utopian dream version of fascism? A nation full of "pure-blooded" citizens who are completely isolated from the outside world, worshipping their Dear Leader who tells them exactly what to think and do, engaging in war left and right to the glory of their great nation? Thank you, I'll pass
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Old 08-03-2013, 03:34 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Economic Left/Right: -7.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.00
I seem to go further left every time I do this one

You are a social liberal.(100%)
You are a social democrat (97%)
You are an ecologist or green. (97%)
You are a classical socialist, (87%)
You are an anarcho-communist (67%)

Social liberal seems about right.
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Old 08-03-2013, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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From your other thread..

Economic Left/Right: -7.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.92




European one:

You are a classical socialist, believing in equality of outcome as a principle. This might mean greater equality (e.g. Old Labour), or as close to absolute equality as possible. However, you will believe in an extensive public sector, covering not just public services (transport, healthcare etc.) but probably also the 'commanding heights' of industry (e.g. iron and steel). Your views on personal morality will be reasonably tolerant, in general, but there is considerable variation within this political group.

However, I took the test again and put similar or almost identical answers, and got this:


You are an ecologist or green. You believe that the single greatest challenge of our time is the threat to our natural environment, and you feel that radical action must be taken to protect it - whether in the enlightened self-interest of humanity (in the tradition of 'shallow ecologism') or, more radically, from the perspective of the ecosystem as a whole, without treating humans as the central species (deep ecologism).

And..

ecologist or green (100%)
social liberal (91%)
classical socialist (82%)
social democrat (82%)
anarcho-communist (71%)

The last one scares me.

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Old 08-06-2013, 03:32 AM
 
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It's ok to be a fascist if you exclude all that race crap. Fascism is a completely solid ideology if its' vaues are adjusted to the 21st century. Not that I'll endorse that, but I tolerate fascism if you're not racist.


I lived under a supposedly Fascist country during many years, and if you exclude stupid things like Jingoism, Phony Imperialism (Cardboard Imperialism) and Religion it would be acceptable, but I guess that Americans would say too socialist...and in fact, Fascism is "socialist" in this respect, "Corporativism" is highly antiliberal and anticapitalist.
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Old 08-06-2013, 06:49 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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I lived under a supposedly Fascist country during many years, and if you exclude stupid things like Jingoism, Phony Imperialism (Cardboard Imperialism) and Religion it would be acceptable, but I guess that Americans would say too socialist...and in fact, Fascism is "socialist" in this respect, "Corporativism" is highly antiliberal and anticapitalist.
But then it wouldn't be fascism.
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