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Don't try to turn what I wrote into something I didn't. You're the one with the blanket generalizations -- "any kind of criticism"... "any comment"... I actually wrote the opposite -- the Golden Dawn way (which, yes, is racist and xenophobic.. and some of its MPs are indeed neo-nazis and/or Holocaust deniers) is not the only way to self-preservation.
Though I must admit I have a blast reading your posts.. for a far right apologist, you sure do know your class war vocabulary!
Have you ever seen the people from GD? I watched them in tv, internet...I doubt they could be nazi or racists, because in their own ranks they have people that looks like black people, or mullatto, or similar.
I think they are quite a xenophobic organization and ultranationalist but not racist. Don't know if they are holocaust deniers (they are stupid if they do so). I've never voted far right and much less being a member.
But even with all I said above, I think that they are outlawing that political party because it's a hindrance to their plans.
But saying these things is nazi-racist-xenophobic.
Far from what a model citizen should say, like "immigration is a blessing". "immigrants are always first class citizens" and so.
I'm sorry I don't think that way, I think that allowing massive immigration into coutries like Spain, Italy or Greece is a crime. Countries with almost 30% unemployment, general impoverishment of the population, salaries, health and social services cutbacks.
That's the horrible truth we're living in.
But you can call me whatever you want, racist, xenophobe... I'd had cared about that sometime ago, but not today, those words are void of it's original content, mostly used to silence this kind of social criticism, making it taboo.
We have much much worse things in europe than far right organizations... They are the economical elites, aka capitalism.
Have you ever seen the people from GD? I watched them in tv, internet...I doubt they could be nazi or racists, because in their own ranks they have people that looks like black people, or mullatto, or similar.
You obviously never heard of Ilias Kasidiaris and his few on the holocaust.
And hey, they also sell copies of Hitler's speeches in their head office. This can be seen in VICE on HBO Episode 4
Nikolaos Michaloliakos (secretary general of Golden Dawn) in their magazine:
"We are the faithful soldiers of the National Socialist idea and nothing else."
"We exist, and continue the battle, the battle for the final victory of our race."
"1987, 42 years later, with our thought and soul given to the last great battle, with our thought and soul given to the black and red banners, with our thought and soul given to the memory of our great Leader, we raise our right hand up, we salute the Sun and with the courage, that is compelled by our military honor and our National Socialist duty we shout full of passion, faith to the future and our visions: HEIL HITLER!"
I think that argument is BS because it's tailored ot make extremists look like they are the only ones who care about preserving their heritage. Everybody in the world wants to "preserve what they have". Xenophobia is when you think foreigners or immigrants will cause you to lose (as opposed to, for example, add to) what you have and it's exactly what Golden Dawn does. There's a difference between valuing your heritage and campaigning on the grounds of "let's rid this land of filth" or denying the Holocaust.
will disagree since euro politicians have their head up their *ss and don't see beyond that. Its not xenophobic to want to keep what you have without any outside influences and your culture alive.
Like how the Golden Dawn was labeled a criminal group where as the two ruling parties of the last decades and of today have been involved in massive criminal corruptions against Greek public interests, under the table dealings and catering to the banksters and elitists. Who are the real criminals then?
Golden Dawn was ELECTED into parliament through democratic means. It can't be outlawed.
Yeah GD is a far right party, they're stupids if they flirt with nazism, they xenophobic... not very nice people....
But they're the only ones opposing against the big plan of the economical elites, the open doors, unregulated massive immigration.
As Wildwestdude said the two ruling parties of the last decades and of today have been involved in massive criminal corruptions against Greek public interests, under the table dealings and catering to the banksters and elitists and nothing happens, and now they're destroying a party (yes a crap like GD) because they suddenly have become trustworthy and law abiding folk...
It'd be funny if it weren't a tragedy.
I don't like at all GD or similar parties, but there's something very terrible going on, because that's a clear proof that the economical elites have the reins of the goverment.. the army, the police, the law... something very similar happened in Chile thirty years ago, the party was a leftist party not a rightist, but they were seriously bothering the capital plans. Just like it's happening today in Greeece.
Forget about the politically correctness, and the idiotic mantras, do not become the useful idiot of the capitalism, THINK.
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