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Old 12-08-2013, 01:37 PM
 
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Didn't say they were cowards, but it'd be weird for the French to claim they 'saved' America back in the Revolutionary War, let's just say it was a little more complicated than that. WWI and WWII are two rather more straightforward and recent events.
And in WWI the US didn't 'save' France. France and Britain had 16 million men in arms combined, while the US sent 4.5 million, much of which saw little action during the war. The American Air Force flew exclusively French planes. The seeds for the Austro-German defeat was sown before America even entered the war.

The Central Powers would've lost the war even if America should've stayed out of the war altogether.

 
Old 12-08-2013, 02:47 PM
 
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I'm still not sure, whether you refer to the First or Second War in Iraq.

If you refer to the First one, France approved Resolution 678 and subsequently sent troops to Iraq. France opposed the Second one and never sent any troops, so I don't really get your problem.
France voted against the invasion of Iraq,only once and then end up sending troups to Iraq
 
Old 12-08-2013, 02:53 PM
 
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This is a funny post. You just listed almost all the ignorant things someone could say about France. "However".. like ALL colonial powers, they lost all their colonies.. French fought two dirty and bloody colonial wars, in Vietnam and in Algeria, because huge French communities lived and were born there. All other colonies became independent pacifically and some are still overseas territories. But France didn't mismanaged its colonies less than the UK or Spain. Big mismanagements were in Portuguese, Belgium and American (Liberia) colonies.

Foreign Legion is composed from 40% to 50% of French citizens, but they are given a new identity and new nationality (mostly Canadian or Belgium) when they are recruited. Criminals are not accepted. It's not an elite force as many foreigners think, it's just a well-trained ground unit. They fought bravely in many battles, but they are known for many war crimes as well..

You never met any French person, do you ?
I don't even know what a French Onion Soup is. If it's really French, it's probably a regional thing, because I never saw anyone eat something close to an onion soup.
French Fries are not French, but from Belgium. Do you think the French invented the French kiss as well ? Like no one tried to put its tong in a girl's mouth before ? It's just the English name of something, it doesn't make it French because there is French in it.
And if those are the most famous French dishes you know, I understand why you feel dumb when you speak about food with a French.

And what about Paris ? It's just a huge city crowded with tourists, students and business women and men, with beautiful monuments and an awful weather.
Not true,France is still a colonial power : Martinique,french Guyana,,Guadeloupe,New Caledonia,french Polynesia and other territories are still under french occupation
 
Old 12-08-2013, 02:56 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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You never met any French person, do you ?
I don't even know what a French Onion Soup is. If it's really French, it's probably a regional thing, because I never saw anyone eat something close to an onion soup.
French Fries are not French, but from Belgium. Do you think the French invented the French kiss as well ? Like no one tried to put its tong in a girl's mouth before ? It's just the English name of something, it doesn't make it French because there is French in it.
And if those are the most famous French dishes you know, I understand why you feel dumb when you speak about food with a French.....................

You forgot the French Pox.
 
Old 12-08-2013, 03:04 PM
 
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OMG where did you come up with that logic. You have to have been born in the UK before 1983 to be called a subject. Do your homework.
It's like it never existed,if u could post a link to this law.the logic is clear,if it was the law before 1983 like u said,,that means this logic existed
 
Old 12-08-2013, 03:05 PM
 
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In all fairness,the french do the same thing to africans and arabs,so what goes around comes around,the french are also very prejudice in general,according to their own polls,70 to 80% of french citizens dislike their own immigrants.

The french people use some nasty words to describe americans,so it is just the boomerang effect.
A pet hate of mine: contrary to what many think, people can't be "prejudice" or "bias" any more than they can be "ignorance". What they can be is prejudiced and biased
 
Old 12-08-2013, 03:07 PM
 
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Not true,France is still a colonial power : Martinique,french Guyana,,Guadeloupe,New Caledonia,french Polynesia and other territories are still under french occupation
Those are not colonies, but overseas departments.
 
Old 12-08-2013, 03:23 PM
 
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Didn't say they were cowards, but it'd be weird for the French to claim they 'saved' America back in the Revolutionary War, let's just say it was a little more complicated than that. WWI and WWII are two rather more straightforward and recent events.

Look, I am not a big specialist on the WWI, but with 1,397,800 killed and 4,266,000 wounded, I don't see how the French can be labeled as "cowards," when you read about the battle of Verdun alone.

Battle of Verdun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The fact that the French lost that battle doesn't make them "cowards" a bit - after all someone loses and someone wins always - that's how it has been in history.
As for the WWII - only 20 years down the road after the WWI - the blood bath as it was with millions of Europeans dead ( French including) I really can't blame anyone trying to negotiate peace at all cost. It's already not about "cowardice," it's about common sense.
If Americans call any Europeans "cowards," it's most likely because they themselves didn't see the real thing, the real horrors of war. All that Iraq, Afghanistan - it's a struggle against inferior enemy with the help of superior equipment, on enemy's territory.
So as I've said in order to understand the French and their actions during the WWII one should take in consideration the WWI first of all, what that was all about. But unless you are a European, unless you from the Old World, you probably won't understand it.
So as I've said I am quite happy that at least France has been spared during the WWII for the generations to come and admire the beauty of the country.
 
Old 12-08-2013, 03:33 PM
 
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Those are not colonies, but overseas departments.
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That's a french interpretation of a colony,Algeria was also a french department.
 
Old 12-08-2013, 04:03 PM
 
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That's a french interpretation of a colony,Algeria was also a french department.
People from those overseas departments consider themselves to be French and not colonies!
People who consider it colony are just ....I don't know...
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