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Old 05-12-2018, 01:09 AM
 
Location: Germany
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No, they don't. After all, there are no ethnic Germans, there are ethnic Bavarians, Saxons etc. Germans are a mix of different ethnic groups to begin with. People in northern Germany look different from those in the south. You seem to have that odd image of blond and blue-eyed Nazi boys in your mind. That's more of a Hollywood thing. I am from southern Germany, but of Celtic origin. My mom looks almost Mediterranean. Syrians and Turks blend in just fine if they wear German clothes and don't speak.
This applies only to a minority, there are actually Turks that look like white Europeans, Pinar Atalay e.g., however the majority of Turks is rather dark and do no way look like ethnic Germans or Middle Europeans. Ethnic Germans that look like Turks are an exception as well (I've yet met only one), even in the South-West. Arabs that look white are a total exception and said to be descendants from the crusaders, though Syrians might not stick out from the crowd of other aliens in Germany.

This girl is Palestinian, amazing:

https://abcnews.go.com/International...ry?id=51913049
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Old 05-12-2018, 01:15 AM
 
Location: Ankara, Turkey
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I didn't forget anything, I simply quoted what I, personally, find to be particularly important in this article.
Anyone could read the rest and come to their own conclusions, since the link was provided.
I really don’t want to keep conversing with someone who told me my religion was a virus and an abomination. Bye.
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Old 05-12-2018, 01:29 AM
 
Location: Germany
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I really don’t want to keep conversing with someone who told me my religion was a virus and an abomination. Bye.

For a Turk you're quite thin-skinned, when you think erasure or I am rude, you should hear some of your fellow countrymen here.
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Old 05-12-2018, 01:34 AM
 
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Trends are not facts.
Who knows what horrible diseases will change everything.
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Old 05-12-2018, 01:35 AM
 
Location: Ankara, Turkey
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For a Turk you're quite thin-skinned, when you think erasure or I am rude, you should hear some of your fellow countrymen here.
Your answer was given a few pages back. Go find it.
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Old 05-12-2018, 01:42 AM
 
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This applies only to a minority, there are actually Turks that look like white Europeans, Pinar Atalay e.g., however the majority of Turks is rather dark and do no way look like ethnic Germans or Middle Europeans. Ethnic Germans that look like Turks are an exception as well (I've yet met only one), even in the South-West. Arabs that look white are a total exception and said to be descendants from the crusaders, though Syrians might not stick out from the crowd of other aliens in Germany.

This girl is Palestinian, amazing:

https://abcnews.go.com/International...ry?id=51913049



Pinar Atalay doesnt look german, her eyes are way too dark, she just would somewhat pass for the 5% of darkest ethnic germans, she would rather pass much easier for French, definitely. She had a bit lighter hair and more hazel of light brown eyes she would pass easier for a German. Pass is different than looking stereotypical, hardly any turk I have seen look stereotypical, even the small minority who were blond turks looked more like people in the balkans..like lighter bulgarians, which makes sense.


Germans are closer in appearance to Scandinavians, Dutch and other german Speaking countries. Several czech and some slovenians also have a pseudo German looks, due to high German influence. Other groups are easy to tell apart..
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Old 05-12-2018, 01:54 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Pinar Atalay doesnt look german, her eyes are way too dark, she just would somewhat pass for the 5% of darkest ethnic germans, she would rather pass much easier for French, definitely. She had a bit lighter hair and more hazel of light brown eyes she would pass easier for a German. Pass is different than looking stereotypical, hardly any turk I have seen look stereotypical, even the small minority who were blond turks looked more like people in the balkans..like lighter bulgarians, which makes sense.


Germans are closer in appearance to Scandinavians, Dutch and other german Speaking countries. Several czech and some slovenians also have a pseudo German looks, due to high German influence. Other groups are easy to tell apart..

At least she blends in well, the other example would be Dorothee Bär, the CSU politician, however she is rather an exception and she doesn't look like a Turk, much less like an Arab, if I didn't knew she was German I would have guessed that she is Croatian:


http://www.bku.de/image/news/657.jpg


When we talk about Syrians, Assad looks quite light, he might pass as a Spanish e.g. but hardly as a German too, his wife might pass as a Middle European, but she is an exception as well.


However the problem is not how people look like, but how they behave, personally I think Asians are the people that look most different from Europeans, even more different than Africans (can vary), yet Asians integrate best and make the least problems.


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Your answer was given a few pages back. Go find it.

I had read it and this was the answer.
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Old 05-12-2018, 02:14 AM
 
Location: Ankara, Turkey
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I had read it and this was the answer.
Throw out all muslims and then maybe the constant whining will stop. Seeing as you hate Turks, you shouldn’t have invited them to your country in the first place.

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Old 05-12-2018, 05:07 AM
 
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Throw out all muslims and then maybe the constant whining will stop. Seeing as you hate Turks, you shouldn’t have invited them to your country in the first place.

SvenM didnt invite them for sure, I highly doubt he was even alive when all this Gastarbeiter stuff began...

This is the difference of mentality between Germans and Turks easily exposed in the way you responded him. You see people as collective, in the way modern Germans are responsible of what germans might have done in the past, and even if he was living in such time with the chance to have some implication in such desicion, it wouldnt be his "fault".
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Old 05-12-2018, 05:15 AM
 
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At least she blends in well, the other example would be Dorothee Bär, the CSU politician, however she is rather an exception and she doesn't look like a Turk, much less like an Arab, if I didn't knew she was German I would have guessed that she is Croatian:


http://www.bku.de/image/news/657.jpg


When we talk about Syrians, Assad looks quite light, he might pass as a Spanish e.g. but hardly as a German too, his wife might pass as a Middle European, but she is an exception as well.


However the problem is not how people look like, but how they behave, personally I think Asians are the people that look most different from Europeans, even more different than Africans (can vary), yet Asians integrate best and make the least problems.





I had read it and this was the answer.



Is there such a Middle European look? and if there was a MIddle European phenotypical variation, it wouldnt only include very south parts of Bavaria, BW ,etc. Most Germany is a cross road between Middle Europe (Austria, German Speaking Switzerland) and Northern Europe (Denmark, Netherlands, Southern Sweden/Southern Norway) in terms of phenotype. Lets say the Northern Third of GErmany is anyways more similar to Denmark, NL and Southern Sweden than Anything, obviously the people still have something that makes them identificable as Germans, While the extreme south (and even there it is arguable) are more like central Europe, which in my opinion is more typical to Austria, German speaking-Switzerland and to some etent, Hungary and Slovenia. At least in my experience 1/3 of Germany is more like Northern Europe, 1/2 is a crossroad of N and C Europe (in some areas with small western slavic elements), and 1/6 perhaps lean more to "true"central european.


For Example the Northern French men being at the same latitude of SW Germans tend to look more latin/romance influenced, it is evident when you cross the border.
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