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Old 11-06-2017, 05:55 PM
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You sure that was in Tver? I was there for a while (too long perhaps) and never heard of such a thing.
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Old 11-07-2017, 09:16 AM
 
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You sure that was in Tver? I was there for a while (too long perhaps) and never heard of such a thing.
I remember going north from Moscow through Klin and some other places (Rzhev?) and a sign for Tver. We got off onto a dirt road with farm fields on the right and a forest on the left. The road we left was going to Tver of that I'm sure. That was 20 years ago though. The depot was in that forest with some buildings. Vlad mentioned something about the source of the Volga. I'm sure we were NOT north or east of Tver. I remember several small lakes. You got me curious now. I need to go over google earth.
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Old 11-07-2017, 09:59 AM
 
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Ukraine has gotten quite lucky under Trump. A lot luckier than I would have thought. Still, it's relatively early.
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Old 11-07-2017, 12:12 PM
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Ukraine has gotten quite lucky under Trump. A lot luckier than I would have thought. Still, it's relatively early.
That meeting was about the Magnitsky sanctions, not the Ukraine ones. Nobody was going to let Trump lift sanctions on Russia for the Ukraine situation until Minsk is achieved.
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Old 11-07-2017, 01:11 PM
 
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DKM. I was just looking at Google Earth and I don't think I have half a clue as to where we actually were. I know we didn't go up the M-8, I think I saw a sign for Rzhev but I'm not sure. I distinctly remember a sign that said Tver with an arrow to the left. We may have been in Yaroslavl oblast east of Tver. Too long ago to remember it clearly. I'm lost on this.
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Old 11-07-2017, 05:20 PM
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If it was in a forest, probably impossible to find this. Rzhev probably has something from WW2.

Yaroslavl... you did a Golden ring tour? I REALLY regret not doing that when offered the chance.... Oops this is the Ukraine thread. This makes me wish the war ends in Ukraine so I can visit Russia again
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Old 11-08-2017, 09:06 AM
 
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Things like this is why I doubt stuff like Russia giving the Donbas rebels that BUK launcher to shoot down MH-17. There's arsenals all over the place in not just Russia but Ukraine too. I heard the rebels looted an arsenal in Mariupol and another in Donetsk. It was just a blurb.

I don't remember anything other than some old Ural trucks and a lot of old T-55 and T-62 tanks sitting and rusting in the trees. We didn't see everything either but I know some machanics with the gear could get a lot of those running. I think the rebels got a lot of stuff abandoned on the battlefield and from these arsenals and armed themselves. I know the Khazakhs and Chechens helped out too probably with ammunition and possibly equipment. The Khazahks did it for money. Certain Russian oligarchs financed a lot of this too. Russia proper turned a blind eye to a lot of this. All that ammo came from somewhere and it came across Russian territory. No one is telling me otherwise.
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Old 11-08-2017, 09:19 AM
 
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Things like this is why I doubt stuff like Russia giving the Donbas rebels that BUK launcher to shoot down MH-17. There's arsenals all over the place in not just Russia but Ukraine too. I heard the rebels looted an arsenal in Mariupol and another in Donetsk. It was just a blurb.

I don't remember anything other than some old Ural trucks and a lot of old T-55 and T-62 tanks sitting and rusting in the trees. We didn't see everything either but I know some machanics with the gear could get a lot of those running. I think the rebels got a lot of stuff abandoned on the battlefield and from these arsenals and armed themselves. I know the Khazakhs and Chechens helped out too probably with ammunition and possibly equipment. The Khazahks did it for money. Certain Russian oligarchs financed a lot of this too. Russia proper turned a blind eye to a lot of this. All that ammo came from somewhere and it came across Russian territory. No one is telling me otherwise.
That's interesting, but in the West talked about the fact that when MH17 was shot down ,the beeches were deployed just misrepresented the district,but that is deployed by the Ukrainian side,which has photos from satellites,and Shadowside was evacuated?
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Old 11-08-2017, 11:22 AM
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Why you guys bringing that up again? It was already revealed this was Buk #332 from Russia's 53rd anti aircraft brigade based in Kursk. It was an accident, they thought it was another Ukrainian plane. We get why Russia covers it up, they don't want to admit they were in Ukraine shooting down Ukrainian jets (still makes me shake my head that Ukraine and Russia are engaged in conflict against each other).
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Old 11-08-2017, 11:27 AM
 
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Why you guys bringing that up again? It was already revealed this was Buk #332 from Russia's 53rd anti aircraft brigade based in Kursk. It was an accident, they thought it was another Ukrainian plane. We get why Russia covers it up, they don't want to admit they were in Ukraine shooting down Ukrainian jets (still makes me shake my head that Ukraine and Russia are engaged in conflict against each other).
Yeah, and we don't notice that in Russia it has long been removed from voorujeniya, and don't notice what the Ukrainian beeches were deployed and were active that day. In General, everything is exactly the same as last time, when Ukrainians shot down the plane over the Black sea. Also to the last unlocked.
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