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Old 07-22-2019, 01:08 PM
 
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It never ends in Ukraine as the Western-backed forces are already threatening a counter-revolution.

parliamentary results defeat second color revolution
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Old 07-22-2019, 01:22 PM
DKM
 
Location: California
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Sounds like the elections did not go the way Putin and erasure wanted. I guess they are cooking up a way to spin this historic event:

1st single party control in Ukraine's history.
Majority of electorate west of Donetsk voted for clear western alignment.
Pro Russia "Op-Blok" got 3%.
No far right/nazi party got more than 2%.
60% of new parliament are newcomers.
The new majority party did not win in Lviv so hard to say this is a "Bandera" movement.
Saakashvili won 0.47% so he's not in the picture.
Erasure's favorite blogger named Shariy got no seats.
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Old 07-22-2019, 02:12 PM
 
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Sounds like the elections did not go the way Putin and erasure wanted. I guess they are cooking up a way to spin this historic event:

1st single party control in Ukraine's history.
Majority of electorate west of Donetsk voted for clear western alignment.
Pro Russia "Op-Blok" got 3%.
No far right/nazi party got more than 2%.
60% of new parliament are newcomers.
The new majority party did not win in Lviv so hard to say this is a "Bandera" movement.
Saakashvili won 0.47% so he's not in the picture.
Erasure's favorite blogger named Shariy got no seats.

Actually these elections proved my suspicions true even more than I expected.
In fact, I am stunned to see how much.

I still need to look more carefully at each and every card on the table, before I'll report on my conclusions.

I still don't know who Shariy REALLY is ( I can only go by what he tells about himself,) but I suspect that by throwing him ( and his supporters) out of the game, Zelensky made a huge disservice to HIMSELF in the long run.


P.S. Apparently you don't even understand that "Op-block" ( Muraiev et al) that got 3% and OPPOSITION PLATFORM (Medvedchuck/Boiko who basically represent Kremlin interests) are NOT one and the same thing.

The first ones simply couldn't make it to Rada, while the LATTER ones got into parliament as the second biggest party and opposition to Zelensky ( they have 11-12% I believe.)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZjzyPmrvgc



So, more later...
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Old 07-22-2019, 03:48 PM
DKM
 
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I know who the Opposition Platform are. They do lean towards Russian interests but they are more pro Oligarch than Russian although that's sort of the same thing. It doesn't really matter because its one of several small opposition parties as the president's party has a majority on its own. This means Ukraine is now basically a presidential republic and Ze has a mandate to run as he sees fit.
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Old 07-22-2019, 11:05 PM
 
Location: Europe
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Originally Posted by DKM View Post
Sounds like the elections did not go the way Putin and erasure wanted. I guess they are cooking up a way to spin this historic event:

1st single party control in Ukraine's history.
Majority of electorate west of Donetsk voted for clear western alignment.
Pro Russia "Op-Blok" got 3%.
No far right/nazi party got more than 2%.
60% of new parliament are newcomers.
The new majority party did not win in Lviv so hard to say this is a "Bandera" movement.
Saakashvili won 0.47% so he's not in the picture.
Erasure's favorite blogger named Shariy got no seats.
1/5 of parliaments seats is women's


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Pro Russia "Op-Blok" got 3%.
But pro Russian "For Life" got 13%
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Old 07-23-2019, 01:26 AM
 
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But pro Russian "For Life" got 13%
It's good.
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Old 07-23-2019, 02:05 AM
 
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It's good.

Stop joking. They are enemies of Ukraine people!
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Old 07-23-2019, 06:34 AM
 
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Stop joking. They are enemies of Ukraine people!
No jokes. In my opinion, these are more or less adequate people in Ukrainian politics.
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Old 07-23-2019, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Russia
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Stop joking. They are enemies of Ukraine people!

I think that inadequate Ukrainians are enemies of Ukraine people!
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Old 07-23-2019, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Europe
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I think that inadequate Ukrainians are enemies of Ukraine people!
I agree. People like this character performed by Antin Muharsky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwDBCvetL1U
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