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That's a Russian Nazi in a single paragraph. Some dubious and selective appeals to 1000 years old history, mixed with lies and insane claims, sprinkled with logical inconsistencies and, voila, ideological foundations for the Russian Empire if not for the Russian Nazism are ready.
Well address your complaints to Jim Walsh of Wkipedia then)))))
Since American Empire ascended on throne to rule the world ( or at least tried to) the wars are increasingly not fought with conventional weapons; they fought by financial means. And in the nineties there was clearly an attempt made to destroy Russia by financial means. I see this latest attempt to separate Ukraine from Russia ( again, by financial means) as the continuity of the previous attempt directed at destruction of Russia as geopolitical super-power. And I am not even a Russian "patriot," yet that's what I am observing for the last twenty years or so.
Sorry, it's not trivial matter to transition from "communal/state" property to (wild) capitalism. Who gets property & power, who controls resources and production capacity, who owns the most desirable chunks of the land, who dies working in deplorable conditions, and so on, the list is endless. I'm sorry, both Russia and Ukraine didn't need any help as far as destruction. It's so easy to complain about evil West destroying mother Russia, it's so much harder, and it's so much more dangerous to object local bosses taking over controls of the plant you work at, and things of that nature. Russians destroyed themselves (and so did Ukrainians), that's the truth, the role of the West is tertiary if any.
Do Ukrainian people have a say in your grand geo-political scheme? Or it's just about the sacred right of Russia to control Ukraine? Russia represents the future of semi-criminal, corrupt "marriage" of capitalism, feudalism and imperialism cemented with soviet-nazi rhetoric and lack of individual rights. It's an extremely unappealing concoction, even if you think that USA is a throne of evil. Large chunk of Ukraine wants to separate from that. Do they have any rights to control the destiny of their country?
Well address your complaints to Jim Walsh of Wkipedia then)))))
I don't see your point. Selective citations give distorted view no matter whom and what you cite. And yet you failed to cement selective citations of you choice with logic, more over you managed to contradict yourself, all within the space allowed by a few sentences.
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That's why it pays to look into Russia's/Ukraine's past as well.
Agreed.
GK believes the West is to blame but we do know it 'takes two to tango.' Recently I've been reading of this call to 'history' that Russia is hearing and allegedly guides its motives today. But doing it at the risk of global instability? I mean Russia is upsetting alot of breakfasts, lunches and dinners around Europe and in the United States. The walls are rattling with his military takeover and incursion to the Crimea. Is the response then to financial/economic issues then the same as fighting for territory and Rus back in those previous centuries? Apparently, if the country believed they were hurt so bad or that they will pay somehwo for Ukraines turn westward. But to annex an entire section of a sovereign country for that? Just trying to understand the country. And really are we looking at the 'real' Russia or just a Vladian interpretation of it now in its behavior? Curious if Medvedev would have pulled this off.
And here photos after military storm in Feodosiya. It is our marines which stuck to nearly 4 weeks. Here "peace actions" Russians in the Crimea are visible all:
Capture of the military ships of Ukraine already equated to "piracy". And the Russian pirates it are even worse than pirates of Somalia.
Unfortunately Russians had an order "clear" the territory of the Crimea till March 25. And they made it.
Today they took this part in Feodosiya (thus they by the way took prisoner of 80 marines) and today unfortunately they took our 2 last ships in the Black Sea. For this purpose they flooded 4 (!) military ships to block an exit to the Black Sea.
And speaking of done done done, would be nice to know how the Ukrainain govt is doing? I'm not getting too much of that here you know the 'inner' workings.
Is Messrs Y & T working out some good diplomacy and working on having a 'sharp' government in that Ukrainian Roman Colosseum what with the lions and tigers and bears all around?
I think that in the Crimea there lives more than one million Russians, and it is the fact. And almost all of them don't consider Ukraine as the homeland, it too the fact.
But 87% are certainly inveracious figure. At most I think it 50%. They also helped to decide destiny of the Crimea: )
Ukraine is the Russian land if we mean by that an adjective derived from the noun "Rus", "Rus" - "Russian", simple. Ukraine is not Russian land if we mean by that "Russian state" a geo-political entity that mushroomed around Moscow Principality starting in 14th century. The entity that "privatized" the brand "Rus" and invented fake lineage of power succession, fake history, that are supposed to justify the Russian state grabbing the lands associated with Kievan Rus forever and ever.
Kievan Rus is the name for a loose confederation of mostly Slavic tribes paying tribute to a "boss" ruler-knyaz residing in Kiev, all lesser rulers were supposed to be vassals of Kiev' Knyaz, but, practically speaking, it was almost never the case. Kievan Rus ceased to exist almost 900 years ago. Ironically, it's Prince Andrei Bogolyubsky of Vladimir sacked Kiev in 1169, completely destroyed and plundered the city, drowned that city in blood and then just withdrew without claiming possession and "seniority". It was a "political" message of a sort, North Western Rus principalities needed no stinky blessing of Kiev' Knyaz' to settle their succession and power matters. Yet, 900 year later, Russia (i.e. NW Rus) claim it's one and the only true & pure descendant of Kievan Rus.
It's your imagination.
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