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Old 04-03-2014, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Ukraine (Kiev)
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*азговор послов *оссии в Африке перехвачен США. АУДИО - YouTube

nice....
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Old 04-03-2014, 12:53 PM
 
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These two jokers remind me of this:

Москва, и град Петров, и Константинов град
Вот царства русского заветные столицы...
Но где предел ему? и где его границы —
На север, на восток, на юг и на закат?
Грядущим временам судьбы их обличат...

Семь внутренних морей и семь великих рек...
От Нила до Невы, от Эльбы до Китая,
От Волги по Евфрат, от Ганга до Дуная...
Вот царство русское... и не прейдет вовек,
Как то провидел Дух и Даниил предрек.

Moscow, and the city of Peter, and Konstantinov hail
- Here is the kingdom cherished Russian capital …
But where is the limit of it? and where its boundaries
- To the north, east, south and sunset?
Coming their fate expose …
Seven internal seas and seven great rivers …
From the Nile to the Neva, from the Elbe to China,
From the Volga to the Euphrates, from the Ganges to the Danube …
That's the realm of Russian … and pass away forever,
As that foresaw the Spirit and Daniel predicted.

Fyodor Tyutchev
1848
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Old 04-03-2014, 02:42 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Originally Posted by Maksim_Frolov View Post
NASA Breaks Most Contact With Russia

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/03/wo...f=science&_r=2

Very sad.
I agree, it is sad. I am actually surprised.
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Old 04-03-2014, 02:58 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Yes, the West has just bombed a major European city (Berlgrad) and killing hundreds of civilians.
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There was a civil war there. Not here. Conflicts of different groups, but not a civil war.

Even in Transnistria the conflict was more large scale and so our interference was more justified. Though I hope that it's all more calmed down in the last decades and they'll find a well-balanced decision.

I understand the strategic and historical importance of the naval base for us. That's why I feel contradictory.
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Just bombed Belgrade? Are you sure? The 1999 NATO attacks were not to steal land.
I am not sure how it was reported in Russia but there was a Civil War going on in the former Yugoslavia. Basically it was the Serbs against every one else. The different republics starting breaking away- starting with Slovenia and ending with Montenegro I think. Anyway there was a lot of atrocities going on all sides but the Serbs seemed to be the worst.

Yugoslav Wars - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Serbia in the Yugoslav Wars - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Operation Horseshoe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Muscovite, I have to commend you for at least being fair to both sides in this debate.
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Old 04-03-2014, 07:25 PM
 
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You do not steal land by force !!!
Oh, then sure enough you don't steal power by force, do you?
There are better solutions than organizing the military overthrowing of the government, shouldn't we say?

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That is what Hitler did. Get it!
Hitler did many other things as well - he is not quite remembered in history for "stealing the land," so no sense in comparison here.
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Old 04-03-2014, 09:41 PM
Status: "Stand with Hong Kong" (set 4 days ago)
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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Originally Posted by Muscovite View Post
There was a civil war there. Not here. Conflicts of different groups, but not a civil war.

Even in Transnistria the conflict was more large scale and so our interference was more justified. Though I hope that it's all more calmed down in the last decades and they'll find a well-balanced decision.

I understand the strategic and historical importance of the naval base for us. That's why I feel contradictory.
The so called "Transnistria" conflict is also of your own making since you added land to Moldova that never belonged to it before, and now, knowing the consequences of Moldovan reuninfication with its neighbor, sought to prevent that reuninfication. Stop the lies.
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Old 04-03-2014, 09:42 PM
Status: "Stand with Hong Kong" (set 4 days ago)
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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The west is not stealing land from other countries, Russia is. There are better solutions than stealing.
Agreed.
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Old 04-03-2014, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Russia
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Just bombed Belgrade? Are you sure? The 1999 NATO attacks were not to steal land.
Yes, NATO just was killing civilians.
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Old 04-03-2014, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Russia
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That is, to kill civilians - this is normal. Hold a referendum and attach land - it is not normal. West looks strange.
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Old 04-03-2014, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Russia
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I agree, it is sad. I am actually surprised.
Yes, NASA cooperated with Russia even during the Cold War. Science should stand above politics.
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