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Old 06-20-2014, 02:50 AM
 
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Now I 'm going to tell the "dirty little secret" of our leftist firends : they supported third world guerillas because they were fughting against "the white man" (revolutionary third world dogma of the sixties aka Franz Fanon).
When it's white people who fight against oppression, they don't deserve support, quite the opposite, they deserve to be bombed (like the bombings of Yugoslavia by NATO ) and etnically cleansed.
The hypocrisy and double standards of the leftist/fascists (allied now with the neoconservatives, what a joke!) is boundless...
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Old 06-20-2014, 02:51 AM
 
Location: Slovakia
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What is it - EU ideas? When people are upset of prohibition of gay propaganda in Russia and very happy to watch civilians die in Donbass. Oh yeah, that are humane EU ideas!
I highly doubt that anyone is upset about gay parade ban. People in civilized Europe know that Russia is dictatorship so nobody is surprised or upset when rading about banning singing, marching, having different attidtude toward historical events and so on.. . Actually it's quite funny how Russians and Putin behave and how they lead Russia towards another isolation what isn't anything I would dislike.
Isolated Russia have always been my view of how European Union should react on any aggression from the east. I just don't understand why Russians make up second largest immigration group within the EU if they hate freedom so much.

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Old 06-20-2014, 02:58 AM
 
Location: Russia
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If you don't see the difference. And in the meantime you could think on why Donbass has the right to declare independence ad Chechnya doesn't.
Chechnya again... You know what preceded the first war? How many people died before Russia started the war? You know that after the first war Chechnya in fact become independent, but militants continued to kill people and to attack neighboring republics (Dagestan and others). You know that many Chechens were displeased, and how many Chechens fought on the side of Russia in the second war?
Nothing you do not know.

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Old 06-20-2014, 03:00 AM
 
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I live in Western Europe and I don't think Russia is a dictatorship , and the 25% of the French citizens (best score, before the Conservatives and Socialists) who voted for the National Front for the european elections don't believe it either , -I would add to them the 7% who voted for the Left Front-most people in France don't believef the lies of our medias (who belong to billionaire French oligarchs by the way, one of them is openly gay and when 1 million people in Paris demonstrated against gay "marriage", he twitted : "I hope a bomb explodes in the crowd"). Fortunately our medias are not very interested in Russo-Ukrainian Untermenschen (our journalists, especially the young, are very ignorant, and most of them couldn't situate the Donbass on a map), they talk only of the World Cup in Rio .
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Old 06-20-2014, 03:03 AM
 
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I highly doubt that anyone is upset about gay parade ban. People in civilized Europe know that Russia is dictatorship so nobody is surprised or upset when rading about banning singing, marching, having different attidtude toward historical events and so on.. . Actually it's quite funny how Russians and Putin behave and how they lead Russia towards another isolation what isn't anything I would dislike.
Isolated Russia have always been my view of how European Union should react on any aggression from the east. I just don't understand why Russians make up second largest immigration group within the EU if they hate freedom so much.
Who wants to "isolate" Russia? Politicians? These pathetic puppets of Barack Obama?
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Old 06-20-2014, 05:28 AM
 
Location: Finland
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People of Donbass have their own ethnicity - Russian (Ukrainians are part of the russian nation), they have their own history, language and mentality.
Where was that ethnicity, language and mentality during 1991-2013? Nowhere! There simply wasn't any, and still isn't. Only the armed junta.

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Now I 'm going to tell the "dirty little secret" of our leftist firends : they supported third world guerillas because they were fughting against "the white man" (revolutionary third world dogma of the sixties aka Franz Fanon).
You don't normally make no sense anyway, but if you're a leftist, shouldn't you support the left in your country, and not the radical right which is in power in Russia?

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Who wants to "isolate" Russia? Politicians? These pathetic puppets of Barack Obama?
Talk about puppets. You're a Kyrgyz living in Kyrgystan, and you would like to be annexed by mother Russia.

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Chechnya again... You know what preceded the first war? How many people died before Russia started the war? You know that after the first war Chechnya in fact become independent, but militants continued to kill people and to attack neighboring republics (Dagestan and others). You know that many Chechens were displeased, and how many Chechens fought on the side of Russia in the second war?
Nothing you do not know.
So what? Why didn't Russia give independence to Chechnya? And don't try going "Chechnya again" on me, as you have been using Kosovo, Kosovo, Kosovo a 100 times.

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Old 06-20-2014, 06:40 AM
 
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streetway

You are full of prejudices. Besides you insist on that something is "known from history".You also insists that we are aggressive people and it also is "known from history".

I have to remind you that, while now we are an independent country, so if we are doing something wrong now (for example, trying to annex the territory of another country) we are responsible for that.

But Soviet Union was different. We were only one part of it and people of several nations were the members of the elite.

You are from Slovakia. I have always thought that was done in 1968 was wrong and we should have found a compromise. But you forgot that a man, who sent tanks to your country in 1968 was born in Dnepropetrovsk Region. You can look at the map at see that this region belongs to Ukraine. Yes!

So, if we are doing something wrong now, we are responsible for that as a nation, because we are an independent country. But for all good and bad things, made in the USSR, Ukrainians are no less responsible than we.

I said several times that I don't like that our government are doing now. I don't feel empathy for the combatants. But you are just so full of prejudices, that I can't stand it.

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Old 06-20-2014, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Slovakia
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Passport control at the airport:
- Nationality?
- Russian.
- Occupation?
- No, no, just visiting.
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Old 06-20-2014, 06:48 AM
 
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I wrote a serious responce to your post and you just put some weak anecdote.

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Old 06-20-2014, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Slovakia
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I wrote a serious responce to your post and you just put some weak anecdote.
What you did in 1968 (Czechoslovakia), 1956 (Hungary), 1939 (Poland), 1939 (Finland), 1946 Iran, 1944 deportation of Tatars from Crimea (genocide), 1932 Holodomor (genocide), 1939 Mongolia - (genocide) ....

Yeah who cares our experience doesn't matter because Russian policy changed after the Soviet union had collapsed ..... oops no of course not Chechnya, Georgia, Ukraine .... who's next ?

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