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Old 01-22-2015, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Russia
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Why should Ukraine answer for these killings, when the artillery shell which killed these poor people was Russian?
Russian? Interesting. Another option: the people themselves blew themselves up.
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Old 01-22-2015, 11:24 AM
 
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Details of the operation of the capture of the airport:


http://youtu.be/5WCwRAmgtKQ
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Old 01-22-2015, 11:28 AM
 
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Reports seem to indicate the bus stop was outside the range of government positions. The bigger picture is this is the result of the city being under siege and incidents like this are going to happen by accident. Some will try to take to exploit any tragedy.
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Old 01-22-2015, 11:47 AM
 
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Why should Ukraine answer for these killings, when the artillery shell which killed these poor people was Russian?
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You can try to tell these people that it was a Russian shell, if you are not afraid.


http://youtu.be/FVCl31okHmc
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Old 01-22-2015, 11:49 AM
 
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Reports seem to indicate the bus stop was outside the range of government positions. The bigger picture is this is the result of the city being under siege and incidents like this are going to happen by accident. Some will try to take to exploit any tragedy.
I think this is a planned action.
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Old 01-22-2015, 11:57 AM
 
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How do you think that civilian plane got shot down over Torez? Ukraine did not have the weaponry used to achieve this atrocity.
If you write it, then you are not familiar with the situation. (You do not understand the situation.)
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Old 01-22-2015, 12:37 PM
 
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If you write it, then you are not familiar with the situation. (You do not understand the situation.)
Situation? It's not rocket science. Putler supplied the heroic separatists with a ground to air ballistic weapon system, which they fired at a civilian airplane before the smartest of the separatists figured out, that they should probably identify what they were about to shoot down.

The result is three hundred dead, and a West that is pretty determined to uphold the sanctions until toilet paper is a luxury good in Russia, or when Putler resign/abdicate.

It's actually pretty simple.
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Old 01-22-2015, 01:07 PM
 
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There are a lot of scenarios for the MH17 shootdown, and some of them don't involve the separatists and the Russians. But it was all preceded by the aerial bombing of civilians in the East by the Ukrainian government and the separatists shooting down their fighter jets.
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Old 01-22-2015, 01:13 PM
 
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Situation?
Yes, situation. The man says that Ukraine has no weapons capable of beating the plane. This is complete nonsense. Ukraine has the necessary arms in large quantities.

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It's not rocket science. Putler supplied the heroic separatists with a ground to air ballistic weapon system, which they fired at a civilian airplane before the smartest of the separatists figured out, that they should probably identify what they were about to shoot down.
You have any proof, other than the video on YouTube? Recorders found and handed over to Europe. War zone is constantly monitored. Spy satellites, aerial photography, radio tracking station etc. Where the normal proof that weapons were transferred from Russia, that the launch was made by the rebels? Proofs does not exist. But you repeat about Putin again and again, like a zombie.

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The result is three hundred dead, and a West that is pretty determined to uphold the sanctions until toilet paper is a luxury good in Russia, or when Putler resign/abdicate.
You overestimate the risk of sanctions.

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It's actually pretty simple.
Just for you.
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Old 01-22-2015, 03:32 PM
 
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Re: MH17, the bus attacks, the bombings, the killings, the murders, the daycare building, the killings of unarmed civilians, the deaths at Maidan , the shootings, the executions, the betrayals, the loyalties.....and the hatreds imbued with more hatred

This cannot be the 'Russian' way. Or perhaps it is? A look at history perhaps will say maybe ' par for the course'?
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