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Old 02-07-2015, 01:23 AM
 
Location: Russia
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Originally Posted by movingtrustates View Post
it dosnt matter saakashvili or whoever.
he speaks the truth you cant argue with that.
You know that Saakashvili had fled from his country, and now the Georgian prosecutor's office looking for him? His inept actions disorganized Georgia on the part (he could not settle relations with Abkhazia and South Ossetia). You listen to the bad experts.
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Old 02-07-2015, 01:34 AM
 
Location: Russia
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just use your logic
its not about US or Russia
or saakashvili
why is it so hard to understand that Putin is guiding russia on wrong, aggressive and self-destructive path?
youre just trying to compare Russia and US but its not about that... even if it was russia is centuries behind US... just use common sense
Because we use our logic.
Because there is a lot of evidence of the presence of Nazism in Ukraine.
Because there are at least evidence of US involvement in the Ukraine. Even more than that, not only involvement but also control what is happening in Ukraine.
Because all these documentary evidence can not be explained in another way.
Because the United States, though yelling at each corner of the invasion Putin has never provided proof of his presence there of troops subordinate to Putin.
Because almost every motorist in Ukraine, yes, it is a highly developed country, there is DVR, and when a meteorite fell in the Chelyabinsk, this is a pair of seconds, there have been many records of a meteorite, and the Russian troops must be light up on hundreds of video recorders, but do not. Only a few of the stuffing allegedly belonging to Russian technology, which is difficult to understand something.
Because the United States is constantly lying. It was not yet the case, what would people in the United States to give up their desires for the sake of some kind of truth, because in the United States live rotten people.
Because handpicked Ukraine Saakashvilli again yells from the sidelines, as it would be good to capture Russia, with the approval of the US, which ached that Russia allegedly invaded Georgia, for land grabbing.
Because all this only gives a picture of understanding what is happening.
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Old 02-07-2015, 03:43 AM
 
Location: Russia
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I was wating for it.

Lenta.ru:
(Russian)

"Europe wants to build security together with Russia, not against it. This was at the Munich Security Conference on Saturday said German Chancellor Angela Merkel, reports Tass.

"No one is interested in a new division of Europe. We want to build security together with Russia, "- she said.

Merkel said that Germany is committed to the concept of the construction of "Greater Europe" from Lisbon to Vladivostok, RIA Novosti reported."

They discussed not only Ukraine as Europe. Therefore, there was not invited either Cameron or Kerry. Because the Ukrainian crisis is only the result of a global game. And Russia's position just to normalize the situation, which really do not like the United States since the idea of a united Europe, supported by Putin and Merkel will throw the shackles of the United States from around the world, including and Europe.
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Old 02-07-2015, 04:41 AM
 
Location: Russia
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And of couse fast response from US:

"US Republican Senator John McCain criticized German Chancellor Angela Merkel for the lack of desire to resolve the crisis in Ukraine. In particular, in his opinion, deserves condemnation reluctance of Germany to Ukraine to send weapons."

proof:
Lenta.ru:
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who is realy want war?
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Old 02-07-2015, 04:55 AM
 
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NATO is Already at War in Ukraine… and it is Losing

Finian Cunningham - NATO is Already at War in Ukraine
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Old 02-07-2015, 05:19 AM
 
Location: Russia
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Exactly. Almost all of the proofs, including about delivery AN124 "Ruslan", is in this topic. Other long exist and can provide.

Only one add - United States cooperates with thieves, criminals and neo-Nazis. Other traitors of Ukraine simply not found. All other support Russia. Accordingly, the nature of the relationship follows from here. People just need to quickly fill their pockets, and then they're going to fall down from the Ukraine to the west, forgetting about it. Therefore, most of the NATO weapons they stupidly sold by exchanging it for the money. Some of these weapons went directly to Assad that he craves to shift America itself. And I think in America that will not be happy. Now someone on Ukriane undercooked ass. No money - and default of Ukraine eliminates bought US top and throw Ukraine into the arms of Russia.

map:

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Old 02-07-2015, 05:59 AM
 
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All this Russia, of course, not US
Look at this:




And tooday the interesting thing came out. It turns out the US still supplying weapons to Poroshenko, but in battle it is not involved Why? but because ...
CyberBerkut cracking a digital devices, Ukraine and the USA have found a surprising thing - Poroshenko selling American "humanitarian" aid to Syria All this could be considered a cunning plan to overthrow Bashar al-Assad, if he had not sold weapons to Assad This is a LOL))

proof:
Украина тайно продает оружие США в Сирию - Первый по срочным новостям — LIFE | NEWS
Text Russian, pics on English.


ps. Where was Ukrainian, Jew to do nothing
lifenews are owned by News Media Holding who is owned by the The Gabrelyanovs which are Putin loyalists.

"The elder Gabrelyanovs loyalty to Vladimir Putin is notorious. He publicly calls Russias president papa of the nation

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/busine...nd/488181.html

Yet again you failed the simple task of supplying a non-biased source, but hey, at least you and your nutty comrades have posted some more youtube links with some Russians saying stuff that only Russians understand. Yeah.... "proof".
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Old 02-07-2015, 06:15 AM
 
Location: Russia
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lifenews are owned by News Media Holding who is owned by the The Gabrelyanovs which are Putin loyalists.

"The elder Gabrelyanov’s loyalty to Vladimir Putin is notorious. He publicly calls Russia’s president “papa of the nation”

Kremlin Helps Media Moguls Expand | Business | The Moscow Times

Yet again you failed the simple task of supplying a non-biased source, but hey, at least you and your nutty comrades have posted some more youtube links with some Russians saying stuff that only Russians understand. Yeah.... "proof".
Let's start with the fact that when the question is about the clash of interests between the two superpowers, unbiased sources of information simply does not remain. Maybe except that somewhere in Asia. Western propoganda much more powerful than the Russian, however. And in the world there are no independent media. Money paid to all those who make the news are always waiting for these news - money. And no one will ever pay for unwanted news. This is particularly evident by Western news where always represented only one point of view Westen. Our news is always presented two points of view, Russian and Western, and yes, of course, if Russia, then certainly all untrue. How could it be otherwise, just says Western propoganda)

A finish that person must think their brains and match facts. The facts presented and all purchases and sales. In this article may not be disagreements. that people would not have written the facts seem quite clear.

PS. and yes, if you expect that this paper will be released in America, then your naivety simply knows no bounds)

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Old 02-07-2015, 08:40 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Lenta.RU
for the proof? LOL nice joke.
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Old 02-07-2015, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Russia
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Not lenta, LifeNews

And what do saying about that?

also Lenta?)

This is leter to Assad general.


This what Ukraine got.


This is letter where they saing about Odessa port.


Selling to Assad. Comlectation chek.


Where can Ukraine take NATO weapon to sell Assad? except from NATO?

how can you be such a slowpoke? and you should not hide behind the Lenta.ru. It is sereous media, like an rbc and washington post, for you. Expect maybe not so official for goverment.
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