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Old 03-01-2015, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Greater NYC, USA
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That video depicts a gang of "anti-maidan" brownshirts attacking a single protester who's made an attempt on self-defense but he was overrun and shot in the face. Somebody in background talks about calling police, and expressing disbelief over the gang shooting that man in his face, just like that, apparently it's not yet common in Moscow 2015. Russians are better to get used to it. Russian nazis defend and glorify the horrors of the Stalin regime, it's only natural you defend Putin regime and its brownshirts, I am not surprised.
The video starts by depicting some-one waving something, I assume it's the gun, later he shoots some-one in the face.
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Old 03-01-2015, 03:19 PM
 
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Putin's brownshirts in action. Moscow 2015. A single protester is attacked by a nazi "anti-maidan" brownshirts gang, beaten and shot in the face with a traumatic weapon
I see a guy in yellow and blue shooting a pistol in the direction of people.

Did you even look at the video?
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Old 03-01-2015, 03:42 PM
 
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Hmmmm..........

Tanks Made in Ukraine Cannot Take a Hit / Sputnik International
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Old 03-01-2015, 04:10 PM
 
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I see a guy in yellow and blue shooting a pistol in the direction of people.

Did you even look at the video?
I reviewed the video several times. I could see a gang of the Putin' brownshirts attacking men dressed in yellow shirts, yellow shirts combined with blue jeans create resemblance to Ukrainian flag, a huge crime in Russia that deserves mob action, it's not clear who those men are, maybe they were just clueless about the effects of the yellow-blue combo on the patriotic Russian masses. The man next to the roadway was just standing there doing nothing, another man was arguing with a vigilante waiting for a gang of the brown-shirts to approach the scene. A man makes a warning shot in the air, after which he runs inside of a store, a vigilante he was arguing with grabs the man standing next to the roadway and throws him on the ground, the crowd of the brownshirts with the flags reached the scene at that moment. They separate, a few start beating the man who lays on the ground the other ones run inside of a store to get the second man, that's when he shoots and hit a Putin trooper in the head (a minor injury from what I can say), a gang of the brownshirts revenge by dragging the second man out and beating him, the guy was laying on the ground and I saw a pool of blood next no his head, later the guy was dragged holding his head. It's not clear how it got injured. My original interpretation was that somebody grabbed his gun and shot him in the face as a revenge for the original shooting, but video doesn't show that, that's true, just a pool of blood next to the guy's head.

It's kind of telling when Russian comrades here defend gang beating of the potential blue&yellow menace to Putin' regime. Again, traumatic revolver is a bad self-defense weapon against the crazed crowd. A tear gas canister + old fashioned run for your life would sue those men much better, but looks like most of the Muscovites are on the lookout for the the 5th column, that's how fascism looks like.

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Old 03-01-2015, 04:18 PM
 
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The guy with the gun is wearing a yellow and blue shirt. The guy passing by, is wearing a Yellow shirt. The guy with the yellow shirt was ruffed up, but he walked away from this. The guy with the gun is going to prison. In prison they will make him sing Ukrainian anthem as they rape him.
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Old 03-01-2015, 04:34 PM
 
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The guy with the gun is wearing a yellow and blue shirt. The guy passing by, is wearing a Yellow shirt. The guy with the yellow shirt was ruffed up, but he walked away from this. The guy with the gun is going to prison. In prison they will make him sing Ukrainian anthem as they rape him.
And the gang of the Putin' troopers who attacked and beat two men wearing the colors they don't like goes where? And that's the point. The guy who was just standing there got beaten for nothing, his dark yellow-dark blue doesn't remind an Ukrainian flag that much, unless you are a crazed Russian nazi.

I could only imagine Russian comrades here going crazy over Pravii Sektor beating the men wearing white, red and blue colors of the Russian flag, but it's never fascism if Russians do it.
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Old 03-01-2015, 04:46 PM
 
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And the gang of the Putin' troopers who attacked and beat two men wearing the colors they don't like goes where? And that's the point. The guy who was just standing there got beaten for nothing, his dark yellow-dark blue doesn't remind an Ukrainian flag that much, unless your are a crazed Russian nazi.

I could only imagine Russian comrades here going crazy over Pravii Sektor beating the men wearing white, red and blue colors of the Russian flag, but it's never fascism if Russians do it.
You have not presented a whole story video, you have presented a segments of events. How should we know what happened before, who was saying what and what has happened. The way I understand Russian laws, the gang can get 15-20 days of jail for beating that pedestrian in the yellow shirt, they ruffed him but he walked away. The guy with the gun is going to get years. That's just from what is on that video.

There is allot of Maidan violence videos circling around the internet as well.
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Old 03-01-2015, 05:03 PM
 
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You have not presented a whole story video, you have presented a segments of events. How should we know what happened before, who was saying what and what has happened.
Is there a whole story that can justify this mob attack? Are you a legal professional specializing in the Russian law to claim what you claim? From what I know, the Russian law provides lengthy terms for "extremism" and "exciting ethnic etc. violence". A crafty Russian courts could easily convict and lock each and every member of the mob for years provided mob action is classified as "extremist" by people in the power loop. Were those Putin troopers extremist about attacking dark yellow&blue clad men, or it's a new Russian norm?

All the Russian owned businesses surrounding Maidan, Russian flags, etc. were not touched or defaced through all bitter months of the Ukrainian protests. Need I remind you, that officially Russia is not a part of the conflict in Ukraine, armed Ukrainians don't cross Russian borders to kill Russians, and yet blue&yellow phobia of the mob on the prowl for treason.

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Old 03-01-2015, 05:33 PM
 
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Is there a whole story that can justify this mob attack? Are you a legal professional specializing in the Russian law to claim what you claim? From what I know, the Russian law provides lengthy terms for "extremism" and "exciting ethnic etc. violence". A crafty Russian courts could easily convict and lock each and every member of the mob for years provided mob action is classified as "extremist" by people in the power loop. Were those Putin troopers extremist about attacking dark yellow&blue clad men, or it's a new Russian norm?

All the Russian owned businesses surrounding Maidan, Russian flags, etc. were not touched or defaced through all bitter months of the Ukrainian protests. Need I remind you, that officially Russia is not a part of the conflict in Ukraine, armed Ukrainians don't cross Russian borders to kill Russians, and yet blue&yellow phobia of the mob on the prowl for treason.

I went to Moscow last year to celebrate May 9th. In Moscow I have met many Immigrants to Moscow including Ukrainian faces. I have seen businesses selling services in Ukrainian ethnics identity, and I have never heard any-one speak ill of Ukrainians.

The stuff I am seeing happening in Russia, signifies that Russians do care about Ukraine and Ukrainians.

I am not an expert in Russian law, like I said, they way I understand it this video shows this guy shooting a gun twice. Every-one else is unarmed. I do not know the flag of Russian Right sector and I don't recognize what flags the protestors were caring.

But the guy did shoot a gun in the begging of the video, so he not exactly an innocent bystander by any means.

Here is a possible chain of events, this guy shoots a gun and then hides inside the store, the protestors go to investigate who shoot the gun and mistakenly attack a bystander, once they figure out that the bystander is unarmed,they find the real guy and take away his gun ? I mean is it possible that it's what happened ?
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Old 03-01-2015, 06:01 PM
 
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Here is a possible chain of events, this guy shoots a gun and then hides inside the store, the protestors go to investigate who shoot the gun and mistakenly attack a bystander, once they figure out that the bystander is unarmed,they find the real guy and take away his gun ? I mean is it possible that it's what happened ?
Are you serious? "Protesters" didn't investigate they attacked without hesitation. The man with a traumatic gun was arguing with two other men, then he made a warning shot in the air and ran inside, the two men vigilante team split, one man attacked a man standing outside and knocked him down, the forward brownshirt "investigative" team approached the scene at that moment and they joined the beating immediately, no questions asked why. The rear end brown-shirts with red flags attacked the store with clear intention to unleash mob justice, a man inside made a shot and hit a putin trooper with something low power traumatic, but he was overwhelmed and beaten, he's lost enough of blood to make a pool. An attack came first, a shot came second, beating came third. The Russian Law could turn this case either way depending on the wishes of people in power. If Putin wants to send a message to the overzealous vigilantes preying on the 5th column, each and every member of a mob would get a sizable prison term, there is plenty of the laws for that. What are the chances for that if comrade Putin blessed the brownshirts personally?
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