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Old 03-06-2015, 08:30 PM
 
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The west was an anchor of the global security, it is a new age of global insecurity, not even an appearance of security remains.
You're on some good drugs, or maybe you need to take them? Which is it? Nothing has improved in the last 25 years when it comes to world security. Look at the Somali pirates, one of the reasons they're there is because Somali waters have been pillaged by illegal fishing. Maybe the US could've played policeman and prevented this from happening?

Nope.

Iraq is a basket case as is Afghanistan. Syria, the Palestinian/Israeli situation has not been solved.

What good if any has the US accomplished? Nada.

Truth is the US needs warfare and strife and even creates it. With peace the US would be irrelevant.
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Old 03-06-2015, 09:39 PM
 
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Interesting. Not surprised if it's true, London is filled with people who've looted their native countries and so is the US. Why not Toronto?

I just hope to god Russian Migs make a visit to Borispol at just the right time.

LiveLeak.com - Yatsenyuk reportedly obtained a Canadian passport
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Old 03-06-2015, 10:45 PM
 
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You're on some good drugs, or maybe you need to take them? Which is it? Nothing has improved in the last 25 years when it comes to world security. Look at the Somali pirates, one of the reasons they're there is because Somali waters have been pillaged by illegal fishing. Maybe the US could've played policeman and prevented this from happening?

Nope.

Iraq is a basket case as is Afghanistan. Syria, the Palestinian/Israeli situation has not been solved.

What good if any has the US accomplished? Nada.

Truth is the US needs warfare and strife and even creates it. With peace the US would be irrelevant.
Obama and euro appeasers wet their pants and show irrelevance each time Kremlin dwarf lies through his teeth. But according to your parroting of lefty progressive spin (incidentally Russian nazis and western lefties share most of paranoia and spin), USA and evil NATO should be all over an opportunities to act Putin give them every day for free. Instead, Obama and euros try to crawl under a rock to wait until dear friend Vladimir will drain enough of blood to calm down. Something dont add up.

Spare me that Iraq etc. nonsense. Post ww2 order was not about state building in Somali or Afganistan, it was about outlawing the wars of conquest and annexation. Obama, says it is OK now, provided a proper "price" is paid. This trashed post ww2 order where there was no price on that tabu.

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Old 03-06-2015, 11:01 PM
 
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Interesting. Not surprised if it's true, London is filled with people who've looted their native countries and so is the US. Why not Toronto?

I just hope to god Russian Migs make a visit to Borispol at just the right time.

LiveLeak.com - Yatsenyuk reportedly obtained a Canadian passport
KGB/FSB had/have distinct propaganda style that requires maximum number of demonizing labels per single unit of (dubious) info, it is a Russian thing, in general, to substitute rationality with "feelings", after all Russians just channel cosmic reason, the process not to be desecrated by burguase rationality. Some fringe lefties share the same style, so it's FSB leaks, too many labels per square inch of screen.
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Old 03-07-2015, 12:02 AM
 
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Ukrainian nationalists is a small group that has very little political or military weight in Ukraine, Ukrainian nationalists are not the same as the Russian nazis obsessed with destroying of Ukraine. Ukrainian nationalists defend their country against Russian nazi and military invasion.
You blatantly lying. After the riots on Maidan Ukrainian Nazis constantly rioted, beat deputies and stormed the administration. They control the street. At any moment they can gather a large crowd and start dictating their conditions. And all this Nazi crap appeared long Crimea (you can watch the video with a torchlight procession in 2012, 2013). They do not know how to make concessions, therefore Ukraine destroyed. In Russia, the Nazis did not have the support. Police disperse their numerically small rallies.
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Old 03-07-2015, 12:20 AM
 
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Russian Reich attacked a weak country
Are you kidding? Do you really think that Russia attacked Ukraine and Ukraine heroically defended for many months? It's a great joke. In turn, I also propose to laugh at this song:


http://youtu.be/Q7Hw5CilOuc

This song was relevant 10-15 years ago in Russia, and unfortunately will be relevant in the Ukraine in the near future. And your hatred adds fuel to the fire and make this event closer. Instead of negotiations you accuse, you scream about the need to fight. I suggest you go to the trenches Debaltseve and to fight there with "Russian Nazis", if you're so sure of that right.

Ukrainian Nazi slogans and riots forced to secede Crimea from Ukraine. But you kept shouting Nazi slogans. Crimea became Russian. You kept shouting Nazi slogans and Donbass gone from Ukraine. You continue to scream and Odessa will be the next. You are an example of how not to do with country.
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Old 03-07-2015, 08:55 AM
 
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You blatantly lying. After the riots on Maidan Ukrainian Nazis constantly rioted, beat deputies and stormed the administration. They control the street. At any moment they can gather a large crowd and start dictating their conditions. And all this Nazi crap appeared long Crimea (you can watch the video with a torchlight procession in 2012, 2013). They do not know how to make concessions, therefore Ukraine destroyed. In Russia, the Nazis did not have the support. Police disperse their numerically small rallies.
Torchlight march in 2012, man that is clear evidence to a torch march. You just repeat demonization BS Russia deploys on its zombified population. At the same time Russia sends and arms thousands of the Russian nazis, communo fascists and the rest of the freaks to supplements its invasion forces. DNR/LNR are russian nazi dictatorships soaked in fear/torture and death of the undesirables. A russian nazi accusing ukrainian nationalists of anything is surreal, it is like a serial killer scolding a child over digging in his nose.

Russian nazi - communo fascist training camp in Petersburg trains nazi volunteers for the coming spring attack on Mariupol.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O0hR4Sgfxfw#

Russian nazi marches and mob attacks are common in Russia. Minorities and immigrant are getting beaten, maimed and killed by the nazis all the time. Nothing like that was happening in Ukraine before Russian nazi invasion.

Russian state decided to harness nazi power.
Black and orange ribbon become a symbol of the russian fascism. Comrade Putin blessed nazi vigilante gangs to sniff and punish treason.

Before, Russian fascist regime diverted nazi attention to Ukraine they did this, and there was nothing small about it.

Neo-Nazis and Nationalists Rally at the “Russian March” | The Interpreter

And thisLiveLeak.com - Russian Nazis film themselves stabbing homeless ...

BBC NEWS | Europe | Girl killed by Russia 'racists'

Neo-Nazi skinheads murder 14-year-old girl in Russia | slackbastard

Russian neo-Nazis jailed for life for starting killing spree that led to 27 brutal murders | Daily Mail Online

Russian judge gunned down in 'neo-Nazi' revenge killing - Telegraph

Russian Skinheads Beheading - Neo-Nazi Execution Video | Best Gore

Russians defends anti-gay neo-Nazis, say abductions never happened

The list is long. You represent a very sick nazi culture, comrade Frolov. And you dare to point fingers at Ukrainian nationalists? Surreal, goebbels rests. Russian nazis took their killings to Ukraine, but they will be back.

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Old 03-07-2015, 09:12 AM
 
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Torchlight march in 2012, man that is clear evidence to a torch march. You just repeat demonization BS Russia deploys on its zombified population. At the same time Russia sends and arms thousands of the Russian nazis, communo fascists and the rest of the freaks to supplements its invasion forces. DNR/LNR are russian nazi dictatorships soaked in fear/torture and death of the undesirables. A russian nazi accusing ukrainian nationalists of anything is surreal, it is like a serial killer scolding a child over digging in his nose.
It is expected. It is exactly what Hitler and Stalin did. They claimed "radicals" and "fascists" were operating in Eastern Europe, therefore Hitler and Stalin had to "intervene" to "rescue" ethnic minorities. They claimed their foreign invasions were really "civil wars" or "revolutions", they claimed there were no German or Soviet troops in foreign countries until the countries had been subdued. Putin is playing an old game that always ends in tragedy for the fool who takes this route.

This game has been played by fascists, dictators and propagandists for centuries. In fact many of the (paid) commenters on this thread repeat the Kremlin propaganda, word for word. They respond to every Russian atrocity with "yeah, but what about that tiny fascist party in Latvia, yeah, but what about that recent case of corruption in Germany, yeah but what about that shooting of a young man in the U.S. Oh yeah, and let's talk about Vietnam, WWI, the Napoleonic Wars, the Roman Empire while we're at it." Just deflect, deny, change the subject, and that's pretty much how you do Kremlin propaganda.

In fact Russia only invaded Ukraine because Ukraine is a democracy. If Ukraine were still run by murderous fascist Russian puppets, then Russia would be extremely close to Ukraine and have no need to invade. The biggest threats to Putin are democracy, freedom, rule of law, and will of the people, that's why Ukraine is being invaded.
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Old 03-07-2015, 09:23 AM
 
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Are you kidding? Do you really think that Russia attacked Ukraine and Ukraine heroically defended for many months?
This journal is more trusted that 140 millions of the propaganda zombified Russians combined, including the Fuhrer and you. Russian hybrid attack on Ukraine is a matter of common knowledge, it is not a matter of a debate (unless you are a Russian nazi, zombified Russian, a conspiracy nut or a lefty fringe wacko).
http://www.janes.com/article/49469/u...ine-is-working


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This song was relevant 10-15 years ago in Russia, and unfortunately will be relevant in the Ukraine in the near future. And your hatred adds fuel to the fire and make this event closer. Instead of negotiations you accuse, you scream about the need to fight. I suggest you go to the trenches Debaltseve and to fight there with "Russian Nazis", if you're so sure of that right.

Ukrainian Nazi slogans and riots forced to secede Crimea from Ukraine. But you kept shouting Nazi slogans. Crimea became Russian. You kept shouting Nazi slogans and Donbass gone from Ukraine. You continue to scream and Odessa will be the next. You are an example of how not to do with country.
Not hatred but disgust, I told that before. Russia and zombified fascist leaning population are disgusting on many levels. Russian Imperial fascism is tough, so tough it can strike nearly defenseless countries in the back and feel proud about the Russian might, sick. Nazi imperialists can always come up with some dumb rationalization for their delusions. Russian nazis make no secret of their views and ultimate goals on Ukraine. Your point? Yet, all the fascist regimes have two issues 1. Sizing up the enemy, 2. Being realistic about its own strength and weaknesses (propaganda overload rewires brains). Russian reich is not an exception to the rule, it is one big rabid proof of the law.

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