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Old 03-12-2015, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Russia
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So why would anyone respect Russia then? Or care about Russia? You reap what you sow.
Russians are accustomed, that the West constantly write about them and their leader muck and dirt. At first it is angered, but now it is not interesting. Matter of habit.

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In other news, Putler is rumoured to be unwell. Maybe even a heart attack. Hope the monster dies.
Why do you think that his place will be occupied by the other "good" person?
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Old 03-12-2015, 06:56 PM
 
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Why would I or any other make any effort to translate propaganda to a language we understand? I am really just curious. It seems counter productive.
Because of that trait that has served humanity so well since one of your ancestors so long ago decided to walk over the next hill. Curiosity, a need to see what was there. The individual needed information about what was on the other side. Curiosity, inquisitiveness. Hallmarks of human intelligence.

Says a lot about you. You my friend, are a victim.
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Old 03-12-2015, 07:51 PM
 
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Because of that trait that has served humanity so well since one of your ancestors so long ago decided to walk over the next hill. Curiosity, a need to see what was there. The individual needed information about what was on the other side. Curiosity, inquisitiveness. Hallmarks of human intelligence.

Says a lot about you. You my friend, are a victim.
Rian.com is controlled by the Russian state, and is nothing more than a pipeline that Putler uses to regurgitate the propaganda that only Russians are too stupid and gullible to believe.

A chimp of average intelligence would avoid a site like that, but not you apparently. Damn, that is pathetic.
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Old 03-12-2015, 07:51 PM
 
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Just as predicted.

TASS: Economy - Ukraine to break up Naftogaz, offer gas transport assets to western investors
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Old 03-12-2015, 07:53 PM
 
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^ haha, Tass.ru?

Really? REALLY?
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Old 03-12-2015, 08:06 PM
 
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It was already reported in Reuters that Naftogaz is going to be broken up and sold. Investors want the gas transport business segment since it generates revenue from the gas transported to the EU.

Naftogaz encourages foreign investors, CEO tells German paper | Agricultural Commodities | Reuters

A lot of the assets will sold off cheap as austerity hits. The higher tax rates, the elimination of gas subsidies, and pension cuts are designed to force asset sales as GDP declines and the currency declines sharply. It's an old IMF formula which allows vulture investors (the ones to whom Victoria Nulan was providing assurances over the coup) to get rock-bottom prices.

There was a Stratfor report about NATO bases already being in Ukraine (Kharkov Oblast) since last year.
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Old 03-12-2015, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY.
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?We poked Russian bear with a stick, unsurprisingly Putin reacted? ? Farage ? RT UK

Britain's Nigel Farage:
"the EU was the catalyst for the conflict in eastern Ukraine, due to its territorial expansion."

Defending History | Holocaust in Lithuania; Holocaust in Eastern Europe (esp. Baltics). Combating new far right's "double genocide" revisionism & Prague Declaration. Human rights (esp. free speech) in Eastern Europe. Countering fascism in Lithua

"Once again, thousands of fascists march"
[a NATO member]

Woman Kills Man, Eats His Brains In Broad Daylight | The Daily Trends

"dismembered the head from the neck with the axe"
[Not a NATO member]

Russia Warns NATO: Any Threat in Ukraine Could Warrant Military Response - Russia Insider

Russia says if NATO expands, it will respond...
...by cutting off the European and American supply of Vodka and single Russian ladies.
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Old 03-12-2015, 09:36 PM
 
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There was a Stratfor report about NATO bases already being in Ukraine (Kharkov Oblast) since last year.
I heard Kharkov airport was closed last summer and as far as I know it still is. American planes have been seen there.
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Old 03-12-2015, 10:22 PM
 
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Naturally, this is selection. It is obvious. But this selection shows how separated the people of Ukraine.
It's not obvious. The video cut specifically hints that Ukrainian journalists were surprised by the residents of Slavyansk outpouring their trust in Putin in spite of journalists' expectations. And you didn't mention who did the video cut and paste and why.

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Do you think that Russians can not say nasty things about Putin? I see that your knowledge of Russia is very deep. I will tell you a terrible secret. Ether some Russian radio stations constructed entirely of such nasty things.
Did you snitch at this pregnant 20 y.o. Ivanovo girl who was tried and sentenced over an "extremist" internet re-post? It's amazing that Russian state encourages, enables and assists an armed rebellion in neighboring countries while cracking down on the slightest signs of internet "extremism" at home.

Charges of "Extremism" are widely used by the Russian authorities to keep "nasty things" harmless. Self-censorship and fear firmly settled on the Russian soil. http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/a...sm/502717.html

Russia doesn't apply its "anti-extremist" laws evenly, anti Ukrainian extremism is allowed, promoted, and celebrated. Selective application of the law is a favorite weapon of the regime.

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By the way, Fuhrer, Goebbels ... This is ridiculous.
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
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Old 03-12-2015, 10:45 PM
 
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Russian Forces in Ukraine
Igor Sutyagin

The Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) is an independent think tank engaged in cutting edge defence and security research. A unique institution, founded in 1831 by the Duke of Wellington, RUSI embodies nearly two centuries of forward thinking, free discussion and careful reflection on defence and security matters.

https://www.rusi.org/downloads/asset...aine_FINAL.pdf

Russian Forces in Ukraine
Following their increasingly large-scale, direct and conventional involvement
in combat against Ukrainian troops in the middle of August 2014,3
Russian
troops in Ukraine numbered between 3,500 and 6,000–6,500 by the end
of August 2014, according to different sources.4
That number fluctuated,
reaching approximately 10,000 at the peak of direct Russian involvement
in the middle of December 2014. The Russian Ministry of Defence (MoD)
had to involve 117 combat and combat-support units to generate the
approximately 42,000 troops rotating in the vicinity of the Russo–Ukrainian
border: either stationed there, delivering artillery fire against Ukrainian
territory from Russian soil, or directly participating in combat operations on
Ukrainian sovereign territory. It is noteworthy that 104 of these 117 units
have been involved in combat since autumn 2014 in either one of the two
above mentioned forms – 3.5 times more than the number of military units
involved in Crimea and in southeastern Ukraine over spring and summer 2014.
The overall figure of Russian troops operating in eastern Ukraine reached
approximately 9,000 by the last week of February 2015 and has increased
by at least 1,500–2,000 personnel since then.
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