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Old 07-25-2015, 04:16 AM
 
Location: Australia
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Ukraine is a fake country. Ukrainians are Russians in denial.
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Old 07-25-2015, 06:12 AM
 
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Ukraine is a fake country. Ukrainians are Russians in denial.
Much unlike Australia, right? Russians are asiatic forest people with a pinch of slavic blood in them, the people who embraced political culture of the Golden Horde as well as Asiatic mode of production/warfare rooted in dispensible labor and piles of the soldiers corpses Russians rarely bothered to bury. Russian language is 18th century invention imposed by the state on the forest dwellers, that and imperial/supremacist nonsense that thouroughly secondary and tertiary Russian culture is not equipped to handle. As a result - a cognitive dissonance where Russian pretenses dont match the ablities of their Asiatic mindsets. 2015 sees the most severe case of such a mismatch, a semi-feudal, semi-criminal, semi-fascist and hells know what else Russian state (and crazed people) make a claim to glory and relevance in the only way they know - by shedding blood and grabbing land they dont know what to do with. That sort of crazy ways doesnt vibe with Ukrainians.
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Old 07-25-2015, 06:36 AM
 
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I'd rather have Pravyi Sektor in power in Kiev than Chocolatenko, because being openly fascists, they would lose all Western and Obamanite support. And frankly I don't believe they would exceed the cruelty towards the populace of the Donbass of the current government of Kiev, which has already set the standards pretty high.
How Pravii Sector could be more fascist than Russia and your Fuhrer? Explain. It is impossible by definition. The crimes of the Russian regime in Donbass, Chechnya will be tried in the international court. Euro appeasers sucking Putin's pipe will not protect the Fuhrer and the bloody regime without losing credibility. Just look, as much as they want to sweep MH117 under a rug they cant without looking like ***** clowns, the Russian fuhrer will be indicted, the permissive, corrupt attitudes of the West just emboldens the twerp and the crazed biomass supporting him.
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Old 07-25-2015, 07:02 AM
 
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I would agree PS is ultra ultra nationalist and with all that entails cannot be dismissed.
How would you rationalize that claim? Just because comrade Erasure and the rest of the resident Russian nazis repeat endlessly something it doesnt make it true. In fact PS is less nationalist than than an average Russian you would talk into sharing his innermost fantasies and desires. They are innocent babies compared to the nazis like Erasure. You discuss the dangers of "nationalism" of PS with a flaming Russian nazi imperialist comrade Erasure. How crazy is that?

Ukraine has very sad history of the Russian subjugation. As little as conversing in Ukrainian (on Ukrainian soil!!!!) could get people labeled as "nationalists", imprisoned or even killed. Pavlovian conditioning is strong, Ukrainians conversing in Ukrainian still are perceived as "nationalists" unless they assume lower class peasant appearance. What would you call the people who imbedded (and well fertilized with blood) conditioning like that in the Russian minds? Seriously, Russians talking the evils of nationalism, especially Ukrainian nationalism, are akin serial murderes discussing moral implications of squashing a fly.

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Old 07-25-2015, 10:38 AM
 
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You mean Russian nazis invade another nation they deem inferior,
"Russians are asiatic forest people with a pinch of slavic blood in them"

You don't say... so they are inferior?

Com'on, your pompous shills become more and more repetitive.
They were impressive only once)))
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Old 07-25-2015, 11:04 AM
 
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"Russians are asiatic forest people with a pinch of slavic blood in them"

You don't say... so they are inferior?

Com'on, your pompous shills become more and more repetitive.
They were impressive only once)))
I dont see what's your problem with that claim. You can easily look up the names of the non slavic tribes who lived in the forests and swamps of what is now Russian heartland. It is not coincidence that the archaic language of the Russian orthodox church was used as a tool of assimilation of those people into a collective. The fact that collective appropriated the label Russian means squat, we discussed that already. As we discussed the imperial virus imbedded in the collective mind. It is just too bad Russians are bad sport at Empire building, they never developed Golden Horde legacy into something attractive and capable of anything except throwing bodies at one pointless objective or another, just to be abandoned later on. A mismatch between self image and reality sooner or later results into severe psychological issues that Russians trying to medicated by attacking one weak neighbor after another instead of digging deep, and changing the rotten course that cost Russians so dearly.
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Old 07-25-2015, 11:40 AM
 
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I dont see what's your problem with that claim. You can easily look up the names of the non slavic tribes who lived in the forests and swamps of what is now Russian heartland. It is not coincidence that the archaic language of the Russian orthodox church was used as a tool of assimilation of those people into a collective. The fact that collective appropriated the label Russian means squat, we discussed that already. As we discussed the imperial virus imbedded in the collective mind. It is just too bad Russians are bad sport at Empire building, they never developed Golden Horde legacy into something attractive and capable of anything except throwing bodies at one pointless objective or another, just to be abandoned later on. A mismatch between self image and reality sooner or later results into severe psychological issues that Russians trying to medicated by attacking one weak neighbor after another instead of digging deep, and changing the rotten course that cost Russians so dearly.
I am sorry, but anything pertaining to your escapades here can hardly be called a "discussion."
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Old 07-25-2015, 12:04 PM
 
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I am sorry, but anything pertaining to your escapades here can hardly be called a "discussion."
Those are the facts, comrade. I am patiently awaiting you unleasing the flow of the Russian imperial mythology to deny the obvious, but I've heard that crap many times over. So you keep posting that for stupid, gullible or Russian nazis like yourself.
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Old 07-27-2015, 12:23 AM
 
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Russians are asiatic forest people with a pinch of slavic blood in them, the people who embraced political culture of the Golden Horde as well as Asiatic mode of production/warfare rooted in dispensible labor and piles of the soldiers corpses Russians rarely bothered to bury.
DNA genealogy shows that Poles, Ukrainians, Belarusian and Russian are the closest people. Residents of the western and central regions of Russia - is the Slavs. Religion, language and culture also Slavic. From Finno-Ugric population remained only names of rivers and towns. All this have scientific proof. Do you have scientific proof of your words?

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Russian language is 18th century invention imposed by the state on the forest dwellers, that and imperial/supremacist nonsense that thouroughly secondary and tertiary Russian culture is not equipped to handle.
Russian language is a mixture of Kiev and Novgorod dialect (Novgorod dialect brings differences from other Slavic languages). You can read about it in lectures academic Zaliznyak (analysis of the Novgorod birch bark letters). In 18th century the language was not created, it has been upgraded into a powerful harmonious system (Lomonosov, Pushkin later).
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Old 07-27-2015, 11:08 AM
 
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Some of these discussions, especially on history, may need to be moved to other threads.
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