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Old 01-19-2016, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Russia
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Russia's economy is horrible. It's a resource-based economy (and all such economies have been pummeled) plus most of the developed world has sanctions on Russia, plus Russia is spending vast fortune meddling in Ukraine, Syria, North Ossetia, Chechnya, and other hot spots around the world.
Russia uses one aviation regiment in Syria (several tens of jets). That's not a lot. Launches of cruise missiles and long-range aircraft is more exeperimental and weapons testing. Costs for Ukraine is primarily humanitarian aid. The rest of conflicts are local character.
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Old 01-19-2016, 08:47 AM
 
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Russia uses one aviation regiment in Syria (several tens of jets). That's not a lot. Launches of cruise missiles and long-range aircraft is more exeperimental and weapons testing. Costs for Ukraine is primarily humanitarian aid. The rest of conflicts are local character.
LOL! Is this direct from Putin? Love that "humanitarian aid" in Ukraine, as the bombs fall on civillians!
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Old 01-19-2016, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Prague
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980 pages about future of the "european congo". Ukraine is a very poor and uninteresting country, I think almost nobody in Western world is interested about future of this craphole.
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Old 01-19-2016, 09:58 AM
 
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LOL! Is this direct from Putin? Love that "humanitarian aid" in Ukraine, as the bombs fall on civillians!
It is Ukrainian bombs. Russia sent hundreds of tons of humanitarian aid in Donetsk and Lugansk, because Ukraine does not sell products in these regions. As well as in the Crimea.
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Old 01-19-2016, 10:06 AM
 
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AND? The lack of education of the population casts doubt on the government's decision?
First of all it casts doubt on so-called " freedom and democracy" that Americans brought to Russia in the 90ies.
And if what they brought there were indeed lies, then all the "agreements" made under those arrangements
should be easily disregarded.
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Old 01-19-2016, 11:31 AM
 
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It is Ukrainian bombs. Russia sent hundreds of tons of humanitarian aid in Donetsk and Lugansk, because Ukraine does not sell products in these regions. As well as in the Crimea.
Exactly! Russia isn't dropping bombs, it's dropping bread baskets.
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Old 01-19-2016, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Russia
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Exactly! Russia isn't dropping bombs, it's dropping bread baskets.
Yes, Russia isn't dropping bombs in Ukraine.
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Old 01-19-2016, 12:49 PM
 
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980 pages about future of the "european congo". Ukraine is a very poor and uninteresting country, I think almost nobody in Western world is interested about future of this craphole.
Well, I have to agree to some extent; Ukraine, Syria, etc, no one cares other than people wanting to hop on the bandwagon of what their political party supports. Where was all the hoopla over Ukraine since 1991? None, not until the coup and the US response did all of a sudden it got onto the rank and file civilian's radar. Ossetia? I bet 99% of people never even heard of the place until 2008. However, those near the border and involved with Ukraine in some way is interested in Ukraine. I imagine Europe is interested because this is a large country in Europe; people tend to care about things that are right upon their borders.

I do disagree however about Ukraine being an uninteresting and poor country. Ukraine is an outstanding country to visit and have an extended stay in and while it is poor now, this is a temporary issue and Ukraine has the potential to become wealthier rather quickly as they have the foundation for this through education, skills, and industry.

Have you ever even been to Ukraine? No one could describe it as a "craphole".
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Old 01-19-2016, 01:47 PM
 
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Yanukovich was a thief who was thrown out power by his OWN cabinet. There is an Interpol red warrant out for his arrest for embezzlement.
Question; was Yanukovich "thrown out power by his own cabinet" BEFORE thugs from the fascist Right Sector with pots and pans on their heads organized an armed attack in Kiev. The answer is not. So when thugs organized the armed attack, "the majority of Ukrainian people" didn't participate in it; neither did they participate in anti-government upheavals going on mostly in WESTERN PART of the country.

http://i.imgur.com/q8vEQaz.jpg

As you can see here, the EASTERN PART of the country (Crimea including) didn't have ANYTHING to do with it. And that means the president THEY VOTED FOR was forceably removed AGAINST THEIR WILL.

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The vast majority of the Ukrainian people wanted a leader who would work for them, not a Russian puppet.
That's all propaganda slogans, the truth however is, no one is working "for Ukrainian people."
The whole idea behind the switch of governments was all about the interests of multi-national corporations and American geopolitical interests.
Ironically enough, when "Russian puppet" was in charge, the economy of the East was getting plenty of perks from Russia, and that's what was serving "Ukrainian people" far more than all the "reforms" that current government in Kiev is implementing now, removing the last free libraries in Ukraine including.
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Old 01-19-2016, 09:11 PM
 
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Ukrainian punishive battalion Azov demands sitizen of Netherlands to vote for Ukraine join to EU. If they say 'no' then he says: 'We'll find you eveywhere - at your home, in a theater, a bus, our people are already in Netherlands'.

https://youtu.be/WePW0heKoV0
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