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Old 01-27-2016, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY.
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Here is how CIA... torture solely to save Ukrainian' people souls they've lost to State Department' mainframe.
That pic kinda reminds me of the rallies in Germany in 1933 when Hitler came to power after a democratically elected pres was overthrown in a coup by der Fuhrer.

Ironically, the same mob supported Yanukovich for pres, but then called him an oligarch tied to Russian interests...
...oh, wait, wasnt that the _same_ they said about _every_ Ukrainian pres ever since "independence" from USSR in 1991?

Wonder why Yulia Timoshenko went to prison? Because she collected stamps and fed pidgeons in the park? No, the oil princess
was the world's 4th richest woman because of (yes, you guessed it) corruption and criminal activities. And now she is out to once
again fleece the gullible Ukrainian masses.
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Old 01-28-2016, 12:33 AM
 
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That pic kinda reminds me of the rallies in Germany in 1933 when Hitler came to power after a democratically elected pres was overthrown in a coup by der Fuhrer.

Ironically, the same mob supported Yanukovich for pres, but then called him an oligarch tied to Russian interests...
...oh, wait, wasnt that the _same_ they said about _every_ Ukrainian pres ever since "independence" from USSR in 1991?

Wonder why Yulia Timoshenko went to prison? Because she collected stamps and fed pidgeons in the park? No, the oil princess
was the world's 4th richest woman because of (yes, you guessed it) corruption and criminal activities. And now she is out to once
again fleece the gullible Ukrainian masses.
If these many people show up to demand resignation, it's doesn't matter whether or not they drank tainted water or ate tainted oranges, it doesn't matter what their political preferences are, an elected and legitimate official must go, if he has any brain or soul. 1 million out of 46 millions of people assembled to protest suggests critical social pressure build up. Only 5% or so of population is politically active to bother to protest. 5% of 46 millions = 2,300,000. Yanukovich tried to herd and bus as many demonstrators as possible for his rallies using whole range of tricks post soviet regimes use, he failed.
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Old 01-28-2016, 01:21 PM
 
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Putin studied and lived here in Turku in the early 90's, and the former Arch Bishop of Finland broke Putin's collarbone during a football match. Not so tough, eh?
Where??
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Old 01-28-2016, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Russia
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National composition of the Don Cossacks 100 years ago:

Total thousand persons: 2301
including Russians: 1325 (including Russian mother tongue: 1314)
including Ukrainians: 961 (including Ukrainian mother tongue: 665 and Russian mother tongue: 294)
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Russian and Russian-speakers accounted for the majority.
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Old 01-31-2016, 11:40 AM
 
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"Ukraine, revolution of the mask": the French will tell the truth about of Odessa Khatyn

On 1 February on the popular private television channel France will show the French film directed by Paul Moreira "Ukraine, revolution of the mask".

Plans to tell his fellow citizens the truth about the tragedy in Odessa, the Director said back in December of last year.

"In September I went to Ukraine and made a film called "the Mask of the revolution". I wanted to deal with the Odessa massacre — it is completely silenced in Europe, nobody really knew about it, including me. When I got there, I was struck — 45 people were killed in the center of Europe, and no one knew!" said Moreira.

According to him, the idea was to "go backstage" because the perception of the average Frenchman what happened in Ukraine, "a little black-and-white": white is the Ukrainian revolution and the black is the Pro-Russian forces. During the filming he met with representatives of forces "Azov" and "Right sector", was taken in the U.S. role in the tragic events in Ukraine.

"I wanted to go from black and white perceptions and see what actually happened, to understand what these battalions, brigades, self-defense, which were on the front lines of the Ukrainian revolution. This was not investigated in detail, we did not know who they are, what they were doing, and what their relations with the Ukrainian government — they are helping him or being held hostage?", — told the journalist.

The event, held on may 2, 2014 at the Kulikovo field in Odessa activists "antimaydana", turned into a tragedy after their opponents were the radicals of the extremist "Right sector" football "ultras". Several dozen protesters were killed in a fire in the House of trade unions, which tried to hide. The victims of the conflict steel 48 people, more than 250 were injured.

No sooner had the film come out in France in Kiev as the work of a prominent journalist immediately dubbed "Putin's propaganda". What journalists propaganda site "Ukrainian truth", which many in Ukraine call a "lie", so not like in the movie? It turns out that the journalists ' anger has led to violent scenes of fights with Maidana with the participation of "street fighters".

"The viewer shows the image of the young man, ready for a fight, which is running, while a VoiceOver says that "after victory, they never returned home. Heavily armed and powerful, they become a threat to the government. Their parallel army took to the streets and impose their own order".

At this point, the viewer sees men in camouflage uniforms with the emblem of the battalion "Azov", - emphasize in a review of the film journalists of "the Ukrainian truth". Particularly irritation of the reviewers is the fact that in the film the tragedy in Odessa on may 2 is called "bloodbath".

The truth about the tragic events in Odessa, the investigation of which is hampered deliberately by the Ukrainian government, forces its way. A documentary film by the famous French TV reporter will be another objective evidence of atrocities committed by "Maidan" ideology of self-inflicted Ukraine into civil war and complete loss of independence.
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Old 01-31-2016, 11:45 AM
 
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Summary from Eduard Basurin (30.01.2016)

The situation on the line of contact escalated. Ukrainian security forces 224 times fired at the territory of the Republic.

During the attacks the opponent has used:

— tanks 21 times:
— mortars caliber 120mm 91 times;
— mortars caliber 82 mm 109 times:
— BMP 5 times.
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Old 01-31-2016, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY.
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"Ukraine, revolution of the mask": the French will tell the truth about of Odessa Khatyn
Is this it?
If so, why only 25minutes?

https://www.rt.com/shows/documentary...evolution-388/

Looks like the Ukrainians dont want the truth to come out, so they are complaining.
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Old 01-31-2016, 05:29 PM
 
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Is this it?
If so, why only 25minutes?

https://www.rt.com/shows/documentary...evolution-388/

Looks like the Ukrainians dont want the truth to come out, so they are complaining.
Here is this movie in French with English subtitles;

UKRAINE: The masks of Revolution - Java Films

And yes, Ukrainian embassy asked French Canal + to remove the show.
Apparently, they don't want "Putin's propaganda" to be shown to the French public.

America's dirty little secrets - supporting the Nazi battalions in Ukraine, after their other dirty little deals in Russia went not as planned.
But now it's all popping up on surface in Europe.
Better later than never I guess.
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Old 01-31-2016, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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I don't believe there was historically much hostility between Ukrainian and Russian immigrants in the United States.
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Old 01-31-2016, 06:12 PM
 
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I don't believe there was historically much hostility between Ukrainian and Russian immigrants in the United States.
My guess would be - no, not really, EXCEPT for the Ukrainians from the Western-most regions, Bandera followers. But they mostly settled in Canada, not the US from what I remember.
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