U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > World Forums > Europe
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 04-08-2016, 12:08 AM
 
Location: Russia
4,220 posts, read 2,350,601 times
Reputation: 1233

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by RememberMee View Post
Whom do you ask to stop fighting? Should Ukraine fight if its people dont want to be a part of Russia?
Ukraine is not part of the Russia last 25 years.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 04-08-2016, 12:12 AM
 
Location: Russia
4,220 posts, read 2,350,601 times
Reputation: 1233
Quote:
Originally Posted by RememberMee View Post
How much of American industry/resources/land Obama and his trusted buddies have appropriated in the past 8 years? Comrade Putin and his FSB pals got it almost all. But, yeah, all politicians steal, but only few very special countries believe that no theft is too big as long as the dear leader is in charge of the Moscow fiefdom.
It's not of your business, it is the business of the Russian people. Your country is mired in a civil war, but you are worried about Russia. You should worry more about yourself.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-08-2016, 12:21 AM
 
4,984 posts, read 5,051,814 times
Reputation: 6322
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maksim_Frolov View Post
Ukraine is not part of the Russia last 25 years.
Wrong. Russian Empire dissolved almost 100 years ago, USSR dissolved 25 years ago. Russian Federation is a piece of former USSR, just like 14 other former Soviet republics.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-08-2016, 12:34 AM
 
4,984 posts, read 5,051,814 times
Reputation: 6322
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maksim_Frolov View Post
It's not of your business, it is the business of the Russian people. Your country is mired in a civil war, but you are worried about Russia. You should worry more about yourself.
Ukraine is mired in the hybrid Russian aggression and post soviet legacy of corruption. Russian people giving carte blanche to the Fuhrer pandering to their imperial and messianic delusions blows up his ego outside of the realm of rational. Abusive relationships of the Russian people with the Russian Fuhrer is everybody' business, if history teaches us anything. It is everybody' business precisely because eager to submit Russian people would tolerate just about anything Fuhrer does to them/the world.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-08-2016, 01:14 AM
 
Location: Russia
4,220 posts, read 2,350,601 times
Reputation: 1233
Quote:
Originally Posted by RememberMee View Post
Wrong. Russian Empire dissolved almost 100 years ago, USSR dissolved 25 years ago. Russian Federation is a piece of former USSR, just like 14 other former Soviet republics.
The Russian empire is the Russia. The USSR is the Russia. The Russian Federation is the Russia. Ukraine... is not the Russia at the moment (last 25 years).
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-08-2016, 01:22 AM
 
Location: Russia
4,220 posts, read 2,350,601 times
Reputation: 1233
Quote:
Originally Posted by RememberMee View Post
Ukraine is mired in the hybrid Russian aggression and post soviet legacy of corruption.
Locals fight in large numbers in the Donbass. It is a fact.

Quote:
Originally Posted by RememberMee View Post
Russian people giving carte blanche to the Fuhrer pandering to their imperial and messianic delusions blows up his ego outside of the realm of rational. Abusive relationships of the Russian people with the Russian Fuhrer is everybody' business, if history teaches us anything. It is everybody' business precisely because eager to submit Russian people would tolerate just about anything Fuhrer does to them/the world.
I repeat: this is not your business. Russians feel that Russia need the Putin at this stage of development of the Russian state. If you do not understand this, then you will talk with Russian cannons and missiles.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-08-2016, 02:20 AM
 
4,984 posts, read 5,051,814 times
Reputation: 6322
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maksim_Frolov View Post
Locals fight in large numbers in the Donbass. It is a fact.
Large number is how much approximately? The fact are Russian weapons, ammo, supplies,support, advisors, regulars and nazi volunteers. Given that it is always possible to get some locals to fight anywhere for whatever cause, or without a cause, just for the thrill and plunder.


Quote:
I repeat: this is not your business. Russians feel that Russia need the Putin at this stage of development of the Russian state. If you do not understand this, then you will talk with Russian cannons and missiles.
You are almost too big for your panties, comrade. Shouldnt you figure out the ways to stop paying tribute to Chechens before making the threats? Russian cannons and missiles killed thousands of Ukrainian troops and civilians already. Yet the Furher is hesitating to escalate further. I guess he's too busy securing offshore accounts. This sort of the crazed feelings Russians have never end up good for the Russians. The vector of development of the Russian state is plainly obvious by just looking at the maps of the past 100 years.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-08-2016, 02:37 AM
 
Location: Russia
4,220 posts, read 2,350,601 times
Reputation: 1233
Quote:
Originally Posted by RememberMee View Post
Large number is how much approximately? The fact are Russian weapons, ammo, supplies,support, advisors, regulars and nazi volunteers. Given that it is always possible to get some locals to fight anywhere for whatever cause, or without a cause, just for the thrill and plunder.
You use artillery against residential cities with one million population. The percentage of locals high enough.


Quote:
Originally Posted by RememberMee View Post
Russian cannons and missiles killed thousands of Ukrainian troops and civilians already.
Ukrainian weapons spoke first.

Quote:
Originally Posted by RememberMee View Post
You are almost too big for your panties, comrade. Shouldnt you figure out the ways to stop paying tribute to Chechens before making the threats? Yet the Furher is hesitating to escalate further. I guess he's too busy securing offshore accounts. This sort of the crazed feelings Russians have never end up good for the Russians.
Is's not your business.

Quote:
Originally Posted by RememberMee View Post
The vector of development of the Russian state is plainly obvious by just looking at the maps of the past 100 years.
Russia does not aspire to the conquest of new lands. But some mistakes need to be fixed.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-08-2016, 02:47 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
13,710 posts, read 9,811,412 times
Reputation: 9739
This timeline seems to put the blame on Russia and its support of pro-Russia separatists.

Ukraine crisis: Timeline - BBC News
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-08-2016, 07:08 PM
 
14,996 posts, read 13,572,953 times
Reputation: 6896
Quote:
Originally Posted by RememberMee View Post
How is that elaborate western scheme to consume Ukraine you've been talking about past 2 years. All that elaborate western conspiracy to remove Yanukovich to be crowned with this.
Obviously the West is not one unified conglomerate. It were the US first of all that were behind the whole scheme and the circles in EU that support the US policies. Do I really need to explain to you all these things?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOZk...&nohtml5=False


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL_G...&nohtml5=False

By now, when all these schemes didn't work out as they were planned and envisioned, a lot of Europeans have an opportunity to have a closer look into all these schemes and what Ukraine is REALLY all about.


Quote:
Makes sense. Ukrainian peasants are responsible for the Russian mania of unique (and by far superior) civilization that cannot be on equal terms with insignificants like Estonia or Slovenia, or moral degenerates like Dutch and German? That's something knew to me.
What are you even saying here? Or do you know?

Quote:
Ukrainian peasants always knew that European well fed burgers will choose fake sense of security and $ over Ukraine.
No they did not. That's what the whole hoopla was all about, initially; "We have no connection to the Russians, we are part of great European race, ( whatever that means,) and Europeans will take us with open arms." When some Russians were trying to say/warn you that they've already had a very bitter experience dealing with the West ( the US first of all,) and how much lies and betrayal was there twenty years ago, they were immediately accused of "spreading Putin's propaganda."
Then, of course, I have to admit that there is yet another part of Ukrainian peasants that wear the fatigues, bow to Bandera and "Great Ukrainian Nationalism" and has no particular affinity to Europe at all. But those are cooks, not worth discussing at this point.

Quote:
Nothing personal, it's been 2 years worth of Euro appeasing to have any doubts about that.
Ah the reality settles in, finally, I see.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > World Forums > Europe
Similar Threads
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:34 AM.

2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top