The future of Ukraine (best, country, dangerous, place)

[Northwindsforever]

It's civil war in Ukraine now. That's what happens in warzones. Children die.

[Northwindsforever]

Originally Posted by Wadym

The situation in Ukraine depends on me, instead of you and such people as you. You can and further post pics, its show powerless rage of Russia.

Yes, and happy birthday, Max.

The situation in Ukraine is totally in the hands of Putin. But i think you should put up a hellish fight before you are wiped off. At the end off the day that's the only thing you can do. It's your destiny.

[erasure]

Obviously, this NOT the way to unite the country. (The bombardment of Slavyansk by Ukrainian army)

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( Thanks lord that apparently no one was in children's clinic when it was bombed.)

Some of the captioning on the right side;

Opinions;

Experts; the recognition of legitimacy of the Ukrainian elections is impossible.
The priority for Russia should be the fight for Novorossiya.

Zatulin; Russia shouldn't risk its authority, recognizing the dirty games of the 25th of May.

Vasserman; the true president of Ukraine will be the US ambassador.

El Murid; Akhmetov is in the wait; he is waiting till Donbass leaders will start making serious mistakes.

Yanukovitch; "I respect the choice that's been made, but this president won't have legitimacy without the participation of the South-East.

Tzarev: War, not peace. They want to legalize the punitive operations after elections.

Limonov: Lugansk and Donetsk regions should be included into Russia Fedration, urgently, before Ukraine becomes part of NATO.

Dugin; Anti-Oligarchic revolution. South-East; history in the making.

Gubarev and the leaders of the new People's Republic of Donbsass are fighting three enemies, three branches of oligarchy - oligarchy of Kiev, represented by Poroshenko and Kolomoysky, the local oligarchy embodied by Akhmetov, and Russian oligarchy represented by the Russian oligarchs, who got their power in the nineties, during Yeltsin's times. And above them all are their real masters - transnational global oligarchy centered in the US.

Salo in chocolate. Yulia ( Timoshenko) shouldn't be all that upset; there is nothing to cry about. Today NOT being in power is the winning ticket.
Army shouldn't rush in. In the next half-year people will start getting their energy bills and their bills for hot water. The price of energy already went up. With this kind of pensions and salaries, people will wipe out today's rulers without any army.
And it might turn out to be so, that Yulia that lost the elections, will win the most out of all current Ukrainian politicians.

[ramzes55]

Originally Posted by whitlock

The situation in Ukraine is totally in the hands of Putin.

Allow me to disagree.

What prevents the Ukrainian government to hold a referendum on a federal structure? The Ukraine is a civil war, and it is clear that no single country is not.

I'll tell you why they do not want.

The fact that the South-East of Ukraine most industrialized region of the country. Federalization means dependence of the western regions of the Southeast, and they did not really want to, as South-East of Ukraine has always been more pro-Russian.

That is why Ukraine is forced such a mass anti-Russian hysteria.

[ramzes55]

I advise you to read

[ramzes55]

Double standards politicians in the US and Europe is worse than fascism. In Ukraine there is a war, the Nazis killed civilians. All international organizations ignore what is happening. The blood of the killed people of Odessa, Donbass, Mariupol, in the hands of politicians

[Northwindsforever]

I don't know who's firing those AK 47's anymore. Ethnic Russians or Ukrainians. But it's obvious that both parts are causing some sort of trouble. And outside armed intervention can not be avoided any longer.

[ramzes55]

U.S. Department of State Spokesperson Jen Psaki thinks that EU exports gas to Russia - YouTube

So public opinion is formed.

[viribusunitis]

Originally Posted by whitlock

And outside armed intervention can not be avoided any longer.

That would be the biggest mistake ever. One can only hope that Poroshenko, who had ties to the Party of Regions, is able to get both sides on the same table again. It's a step forward that they got rid of Turchynov...

[ramzes55]

Read an interview with the German 90 year old man, who had served in the SS "HITLERJUGEND."
He asked what is happening in Ukraine and when he was told he thought and said:

- We have done a lot of bad. But we never bombed their own cities.