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Old 10-18-2014, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
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Ukraine is the new somalia of Europe. I don't think EU will let in such an unstable country. Plus they owe Russia gas money lolz.
Absolutely! And the saddest thing is that - ukrainians destroyed their own country with their own hands and still don't realize that. There were three revolutions in 10 years. It is insanity!
And yes, it is Somali in Europe now.

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Old 10-18-2014, 10:04 AM
 
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There were Ukrainians, who fought against the Red Army.
There were Ukrainians, who fought for the Red Army.

Had those Ukrainians, who fought against the Red Army, a chance to achieve the independency in the 1940s? No. So, they only increased the chaos in the chaotic situation of the war.

And yes, Bandera was put into a concentration camp. But it doesn't mean that he wasn't a fascist.

He just didn't believe in German supremacy, he thought that if Hitler co-operated with Italians, he could co-operate with Ukrainians.
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Old 10-18-2014, 10:22 AM
 
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In 1959, Bandera was killed by KGB agent Bohdan Stashinsky.
Ha-ha-ha
Bohdan Stashinsky was an ukrainian himself whose parents were ukrainian nationalists.
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Old 10-18-2014, 10:38 AM
 
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Your mercenaries hide the body of Russian soldiers in the coal mines, because Putin is afraid to admit the truth.

Russians, you're really such cowards that are afraid to pick up the dead bodies of your soldiers and bury as needed?

I despise this stupidity and cowardice. You have nothing sacred. Or do you think that Russian girls still give birth to a soldier?


I see that Russian trolls strongly resent. It makes me laugh. As we say: the dog barks, but the caravan goes on.
Rasha goodbye. Ukraine is living as she sees fit.

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Old 10-18-2014, 10:51 AM
 
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Recommend to worry about the Russian soldiers in the East of Ukraine.
If the Russian army would have been in the East of Ukraine for real then there wouldn't be fight there for more than six months. The Russian army would eliminate your unprofessional, poor, demoralized ukrainian army that has outdated weaponry in just 2 days. The Russian army wouln't allow the ukrainian army to bomb cities of the Donbas and kill its peaceful civilians daily! According to the UN, 3707 people were killed and 9075 are wounded as for october 15th.
Just turn on your brain work a little bit and don't listen the ukrainian neo-nazis propaganda!
Enemies of Ukraine are inside of Ukraine. And I am not only talking about your oligarchs who need this war in the East of Ukraine.
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Old 10-18-2014, 11:12 AM
 
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Your mercenaries hide the body of Russian soldiers in the coal mines, because Putin is afraid to admit the truth.

Russians, you're really such cowards that are afraid to pick up the dead bodies of your soldiers and bury as needed?

I despise this stupidity and cowardice. You have nothing sacred. Or do you think that Russian girls still give birth to a soldier?


I see that Russian trolls strongly resent. It makes me laugh. As we say: the dog barks, but the caravan goes on.
Rasha goodbye. Ukraine is living as she sees fit.
Where did you get this info from? "Подробности" news or something like that?
Sooner or later the ukrainian people will sober up from their mass self-deception and inadequacy, and
they will feel really sorry for all their mentality disorder tricks.
The whole world already see where your "caravan" goes now. The russian proverb is right - when God wants to punish someone, He takes their brains away from them.
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Old 10-18-2014, 11:21 AM
 
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Before say "Good bye, Russia" you must manage to survive without russian coal, gas, gasoline and without export of your goods to Russia.
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Old 10-18-2014, 11:27 AM
 
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Why do you think so? You come up with it yourself. Bandera fought against the Soviet army, and not the other Ukrainians.

You do not know our history.
Sorry, but you are lacking a lot of knowledge; numerous ethnic Ukrainians fought for the Red Army (including my own Ukrainian relatives). Numerous Ukrainians fully supported the Soviet regime, and the second longest serving Soviet leader, Brezhnev, was Ukrainian, and ethnic Ukrainians were in high positions in the Soviet regime.

Ukraine gained the most from the Soviet regime. The western part of Ukraine was gained during WW2, the eastern border was drawn by Soviet leaders in an effort to give the Ukrainian SSR more economic power, Crimea was gifted from the Russian SSR to the Ukrainian SSR, Ukraine's entire infrastructure is a product of the USSR, and Ukrainians greatly contributed to the USSR regime as can be seen by many of Ukraine's industries today that were formed under the USSR.

Bandera fought against ethnic Ukrainians, I have no idea where you get that 100% of all ethnic Ukrainians are somehow anti-Russian and were anti-Soviet. There are numerous Ukrainians who were against Bandera, the Germans, and were 100% pro-Soviet to the point of assisting in the Soviet persecution of all of those who were deemed to be guilty of anti-Soviet activities, which included people from all ethnic groups.
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Old 10-18-2014, 11:37 AM
 
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Ukrainians will not quarrel with each other, as this want Russian.
The only thing that has happened in Ukraine since its independence is quarreling among each other. Whether it is two revolutions over the last ten years, physical fighting in the Rada, or the current war, all Ukraine has done is quarreled among each other. Ukraine has of yet stood on its own since independence.

You can blame Russia all you want, but you cannot explain what happened after the Orange Revolution which removed the so called "pro-Russian" leader and installed the "pro-Ukrainian" leadership; and what was the result of that? Oh yes, the so called "pro-Ukrainian" leaders were so bad that the previous leader got elected back into office.

Another thing; your posts are a great reflection of the fact that Ukraine, mainly ethnic Ukrainians, have dismissed the fact that there are non-ethnic Ukrainians living in Ukraine, and who have resided there much longer than Ukraine has been a state. This has created the constant friction within the country, making it difficult to progress. In contrast, Russia has numerous ethnic groups and their economy and standard of living is way above Ukraine's.
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Old 10-18-2014, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Ukraine
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Ukraine gained the most from the Soviet regime. The western part of Ukraine was gained during WW2, the eastern border was drawn by Soviet leaders in an effort to give the Ukrainian SSR more economic power, Crimea was gifted from the Russian SSR to the Ukrainian SSR, Ukraine's entire infrastructure is a product of the USSR, and Ukrainians greatly contributed to the USSR regime as can be seen by many of Ukraine's industries today that were formed under the USSR.
100% true


It is important to understand that the Soviet Union is no more. Moscow must abandon their ambitions to improve their position at the expense of Ukraine.

I will remind you that Ukraine was ready to cooperate with Russia and Europe. Putin did not like it. He decided that he has the right instead of the Ukrainians to decide with whom and when they were friends.
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