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Unlike PS, comrade Erasure is highly vocal about his absentee nationalism/imperialism and his hatred of the scheming Anglo Saxons.
It has to do with the resurgence of colonialism by those countries that seek to exploit resources in the developing world. It's not only Ukraine, but Greece, Iraq, Syria, Africa, etc.
Have the Azov and other ultra-nationalist forces of Ukraine moved in on Kiev yet? They did threaten lately to arrest Poroshok, and jail all other comrades for not giving in to their demands.
The Azov battalions have in fact retreated from Donetsk to concentrate on overthrowing Poroshok.
Soon we'll see who is truly Fascist.
Define "scheming"? Compared to the bloody backwardness of the Russia, yes, Americans are choir boys, isnt that obvious? USA has a clear picture of its interests, and it relies on finding of mutual benefits way more than it relies on rude military force, the mightiest force world has ever seen.
Hmmm..."mutual benefits" you say? Lemmi think for a moment. Say you have a group of thugs in charge of a country, whose interests are to rob their compatriots dry, to amass as much wealth as possible and then to secure it, assuring the dominant position in the society. That's party #1. And then there is a party #2. This particular party is interested in amassing wealth as well, but even more so, it's interested in removing any competition embodied by the country represented by the party#1. Better else, making money flow in one direction kills two birds with one stone as they say. If party #1 receives encouragement and support, if its private bank accounts are protected by the party #2, and in return for these favors party #1 assures the access to coveted natural resources ( or any other resources party #2 might be interested in,) - yes, that's the "mutual benefits" right there. Particularly when party #1 is handsomely rewarded in the process, while the rest of the country is coming to ruin, with all the money/resources flowing out.
Did I define "scheming" good enough, or you need more explanations?
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Had the modern Russians, so insecure in their domination urges, possessed the capabilities of USA, even the darkest dystopian authors would not have been imagimative enough to predict the outcome.
I can predict it I guess. Russians are not particularly good at scheming. Not that they are not capable of it, but it's really not their thing. So I'd think that their ultimate response would be pushing a big red button.
Define "scheming"? Compared to the bloody backwardness of the Russia, yes, Americans are choir boys, isnt that obvious? USA has a clear picture of its interests, and it relies on finding of mutual benefits way more than it relies on rude military force, the mightiest force world has ever seen. Had the modern Russians, so insecure in their domination urges, possessed the capabilities of USA, even the darkest dystopian authors would not have been imagimative enough to predict the outcome.
The world is not bipolar anymore, the US is just one of many actors.
The EU is the laughing stock and NATO are just border patrols.
Who are the "other actors" then if EU is the "laughing stock?"
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Russia should watch closely those that want to return the country to the dismal state existing a few years ago.
Who that would be? Names and numbers please.
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As you know, Russian economy is based solely on commodities, a bear market now with Iran into play and gas lines being rearranged.
No, it's not "based solely on commodities."
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Why Russia wants to annex poor and problem laden regions?
That would be what? Crimea?
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Not enough with COMECON and the WARZAWA PACT?
Those countries were never "annexed."
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Why don't they invade former oil rich soviet republics that are as Russian as Ukraine?
Why would Russia need them when it has enough of its own oil?
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As to the scheming, you should not blame the west for the corruption that always existed in your country. The total lack of principles of the "new man". Those Party 1 and Party 2 already existed under Andropov, already existed under Stalin,
You know not what you are talking about. Corruption always existed in the S.U - that's true, but Soviet system was preventing the riches of the country to be sold to the West in order to benefit a few. The country riches were reserved for the national interests. Inefficiently so, grossly mismanaged, but the fact remains.
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¿have you heard about the Soviet Rockefeller?
I have no idea what kind of abracadabra you have in your head.
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Of course, the west always sold the rope, as the one that is always present said once, but that does not mean that the "proletarian masses" are innocent.
It already did. ( Or, quoting one famous Russian writer, the author of "Master and Margarita," - "Annushka has already spilled the oil."
There is no turning back.
Radio Liberty: "UAF are shelling Donetsk in response to rebels shelling Donetsk"
Here is the actual language: “The ATO* spokesmen [Major General Taran and colonel Sergei Galushko] have presented proof that Donetsk is being shelled by the rebels themselves, in order to provoke return fire from the UAF forces, and then blame them for shelling Donetsk.”
So, here is the reality as presented by "Voice of Langley" in East Europe:
The rebels start randomly shelling their own families in Donetsk. UAF see it, get “provoked” by somebody else doing their job, and start indiscriminately shelling Donetsk as well.
Russian nazis and regulars have brought their families to Donetsk together with guns and ammo? Did you check out 20 years old pictures of Grozny? Russian fuhrer wages a limited propaganda-military campaign to establish exclusive Russian sphere of influence as a first step towards restoration of the Russian glory. There are no "rebels", there are Russians masters and 100% dependent local collaborants, drafted mostly from lumpen public having no home or family.
Putin figured that he has a good chance to win a small victorious campaign considering rampant corruption and appeasement urges among the Western elites, and a good chunk of population caring about no principle in particular, or way too eager to take the Russian side.
Treachery, lies, disregard for human life, that's how Russians fight wars historically speaking. Shelling Donetsk to score propaganda points is one of the least crimes Russians are capable of. Russian propagandists from "Life News" have cunning ability to predict the exact locations of the staged shellings. Sometimes they beat shells to it.
Comrade Ichoro, 2010-2015 showed that the leftists are hypocritical idiots more than eager to blindly support whatever deranged regime that fits in their simplistic conspirological worldview. You have no relevance of any kind for the decades to come, serving as sidekicks to the Russian nazis and such that is an absolute max, enjoy.
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It has to do with the resurgence of colonialism by those countries that seek to exploit resources in the developing world. It's not only Ukraine, but Greece, Iraq, Syria, Africa, etc.
Ancient Russian imperialism/nazism is caused by the American colonialism. In order to extract resources USA causes instability. That's just flow of idiocy, comrade. In fact, all the instability in Africa (aside Muslim extremism) is caused by the natives fighting for the exclusive rights to sell resources to the American or rather global "colonizers". There is little else to it.
Hmmm..."mutual benefits" you say? Lemmi think for a moment. Say you have a group of thugs in charge of a country, whose interests are to rob their compatriots dry, to amass as much wealth as possible and then to secure it, assuring the dominant position in the society.
Are you talking about comrade Putin and his FSB buddies or maybe Yanukovich, or maybe any other post Soviet "elite" ?
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That's party #1. And then there is a party #2. This particular party is interested in amassing wealth as well, but even more so, it's interested in removing any competition embodied by the country represented by the party#1.
Makes zero sense. Post soviet party #1 was famous for selling things at the cost well below any capitalist (or sane person) imagination in order to accumulate starting capital and power. USA etc. did a lot to help Russia to live through the first post Soviet years right at the time Russians were busy claiming former state property.
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Better else, making money flow in one direction kills two birds with one stone as they say. If party #1 receives encouragement and support, if its private bank accounts are protected by the party #2, and in return for these favors party #1
Btw, resources are traded on the open market. You very convoluted scheme ignores the fact that party#2 has so many more things party #1genuinely craves, luxury, goods, technology, healthcare, leisure and, yes, a landing pad for party #1 and its loot. Party #2 needs no conspiracies until Putin and press secretary cannot resist wearing $600k watches. Or you think that party #2 is scheming to take 600k watch away from Putin' mouthpiece?
For some unexplained reason you consider party #1 to be passive dummies without any agenda and wishes and cravings of their own. Also, you ignore the fact that Euro and even American party #2 are more than willing to accomodate Russian fuhrer not to threaten business, and it is Russian party #' irrational actions dont allow that. If not for the Russian aggression in Donbass, annexation of Crimea would have been forgotten and inconsequential, just like Russian aggression in Georgia or Moldova. Euroes do everything possible to pacify Putin with Donbass.
And look at you, a lefty hypocrite. Russian party #1 plays a imperialist/nazi card to herd masses behind the fuhrer (who robbed them blind), and you wet your pants with joy. Ukrainians did a tiny step towards restricting Yanukovich party #1 robbing them blind, and your kind insults their efforts using all the arsenal of the labels.
All I can say, you are very naive, ideologically blinded man who lives under a rock or in a bunker, maybe momma's basement.
You probably live in Donetsk?
I was there one month ago.
Do not lie to me *****
I saw the Ukrainian army artillery shelling Gorlovka.
They were shooting at civilians. Purposefully.
The military was not there
If you saw artillery fire and you saw shells exploding all at the same time, your eyesight is quite inhuman, Mr. Lucifer, not speaking of you reading artillery men' minds. Why dont you crawl to some Russian nazi site to spew this BS. We have plenty of the Russian nazis in this thread already, or you take turns serving mother Russia here?
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Lemmi think for a moment. Say you have a group of thugs in charge of a country, whose interests are to rob their compatriots dry, to amass as much wealth as possible and then to secure it, assuring the dominant position in the society. That's party #1. And then there is a party #2. This particular party is interested in amassing wealth as well, but even more so, it's interested in removing any competition embodied by the country represented by the party#1. Better else, making money flow in one direction kills two birds with one stone as they say. If party #1 receives encouragement and support, if its private bank accounts are protected by the party #2, and in return for these favors party #1 assures the access to coveted natural resources ( or any other resources party #2 might be interested in,) - yes, that's the "mutual benefits" right there. Particularly when party #1 is handsomely rewarded in the process, while the rest of the country is coming to ruin, with all the money/resources flowing out. 
