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Old 03-15-2014, 12:06 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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No, it isn't. You are a very poor country actually. It may work as you say out if you don't have to study, don't get ill, don't need several cars, find that one honest employer that allows you to work 40 hours without overtime, eat only fast food instead of fresh groceries but that does not apply to 99% of all Americans(except the fast food perhaps).

In addition, we have 30 - 40 days paid leave, unlimited sick leave so even when we earn 10% - 20% less, we still earn more per hour actually worked than you do.

Some random statistic doesn't mean anything, you can't even compare US overall to Europe. The difference inside the US itself in costs of living for example between Manhattan and rural Alabama is so large it makes no sense. But keep trying anyway.
I get ill but when i get ill all i have to do is pay $10 for some Advil.... lol
Its not like your Average American needs to get surgeries every other month.
I can handle paying student loans and car payments.
Sorry to keep disappointing you but ts incredibly easy to find someone who will let you work 40 hours a week.

 
Old 03-15-2014, 01:20 PM
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Without guaranteed annual paid and sick leave (while other developed countries grant) and more job protection.


Plus, it is easier to move up the social ladder in those other countries since post graduate schools are much more affordable compared to the States.
 
Old 03-15-2014, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Vik
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And now factor in that getting ill in the US can cost you 10.000$s to 100.000$s even if you have insurance, studying costs 20.000$ to 40.000$ per year in the US, you can hardly live without a car(or several per family) in the US, groceries are at least twice as expensive in the US, Americans work 60 hours per week for a slightly higher average income whereas we work 30 - 40 hours per week.

They should be making 2x - 3x our salaries to have the same standard of living like over here in Western Europe but in reality they earn on average like 10% to 20% more than we do.
That the standard of living is better in the US than in Europe is a bitter pill to swallow for many in Europe. And the differance is widening. The liberal European hates the very thought of that capitalist USA might be on the right track - and Europe not - and that they actually might be doing things right in the US.

Also, they will not realize that the United States of Europe will be a failure. Europe can never be unitized like the US. Imagine what it costs to sivilize the PIGS-countries...let alone..they now want to include the Ukraine...what is that going to cost?

Groceries cost twice as much in the US??? Are you real??? We live in Scandinavia - and groceries here are generally 5 times as costly here than in the US.
 
Old 03-15-2014, 02:14 PM
 
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That the standard of living is better in the US than in Europe is a bitter pill to swallow for many in Europe. And the differance is widening.
That the standard of living is much better in Europe than in the US is a bitter pill to swallow for many in the US. And the difference is widening. 60 million Americans on food stamps, an equal amount without health insurance. Middle class is impoverishing rapidly and are becoming the new poor. Look at Obama's last 2 speeches on these issues. And after the housing bubble comes the education bubble. All unthinkable here in Europe.

Like I said before, you'd need to earn on average a factor 2-3x more before you would catch up on our living standard.

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Groceries cost twice as much in the US??? Are you real??? We live in Scandinavia - and groceries here are generally 5 times as costly here than in the US.
What are you buying then, imported stuff from the US with 25% Scandinavian VAT on top?
 
Old 03-15-2014, 04:27 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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I get ill but when i get ill all i have to do is pay $10 for some Advil.... lol
Its not like your Average American needs to get surgeries every other month.
I can handle paying student loans and car payments.
Sorry to keep disappointing you but ts incredibly easy to find someone who will let you work 40 hours a week.
*crickets*
 
Old 03-16-2014, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Paris
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A thread asking Europeans if they would move to the US or Canada is bound to become a duplicate of this one.
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