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Old 03-14-2014, 02:44 AM
 
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Here are some statistics(from 2007) about gangs in London. There were (according to law enforcement) about 2000 gang bangers in London at the time. Which does not seem a lot at all to me considering the population size of London. They were responsible for 20% of all youth crime. Which means 80% of youth crime has been committed by 'regular criminals'.

I don't deny the UK has a major narcotics problem(that is also what I referred to in my previous post). But most of that is non-violent. And there have been a few gang related shootings, like the article mentions, although they don't happen every day like you seem to suggest. Gang related killings are still rare.

Like I said before, the police in Britain don't even carry guns. That would be unthinkable here in the Netherlands or places like the US where there is much more violent (gun related) crime and where the police have to be able to defend themselves. Apparently, until present, that is still not necessary today in Britain, making it a pretty safe place.
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Old 03-14-2014, 03:44 AM
 
Location: LONDON BABY
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Lots of cops have guns, there is a whole armed response force who all have guns, that's why so many young black kids are shot and killed by police in Britain. It was a police shooting of a young gang banger that caused the London riots two years ago. Britain has murders EVERY DAY. Britain is a much different and more dangerous place than the Netherlands. Britain has REAL gangs and police get murdered here, teenagers get shot and stabbed, it is a different world to what you have in sweet and safe Netherlands.
The police in Britain are always shooting and killing people, London has a higher crime rate than New York, that is FACT. Who do you think controls all the drugs in Britain, Britain has the largest drugs market in Europe, and it is all controlled by the gangs. use your brain. In London, Manchester, Birmingham, you can hear gun shots firing almost every night by teenage gangbangers shooting at stuff

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Old 03-14-2014, 04:38 AM
 
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Lots of cops have guns, there is a whole armed response force who all have guns, that's why so many young black kids are shot and killed by police in Britain. ...
Regular police don't carry guns in Britain which means everyday patrolling is safe for them. These armed response forces don't regularly patrol the streets and do not handle day to day situations like DUI's, uninsured drivers, public misconduct. In the Netherlands or the US all police carry guns, even for day to day situations.

Like I said before, 2000 gang bangers is nothing compared to the population size of London. Riots are usually caused by civil unrest caused by unemployment, poverty etc. and the shooting of a gang banger by the police is only just the catalyst. Nobody really cares about a gang banger shot by the police.
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Old 03-14-2014, 05:07 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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He's talking nonsense. Gun-related crimes in the UK are extremely rare - even rarer are gun-related homicides. Only Japan has a lower rate of gun deaths than we do.



The UK has a high rate of violent crime, but so do most northern European countries. Violent crime can be anything from intimidation to gross bodily harm.

Most deaths amongst young people are caused by traffic or suicide. You may get the occasional stabbing, but they're by no means common - the stats speak for themselves.



His claim that you can hear shootings every night is laughable. I've never heard a gunshot before - not even once - in all my 26 years. Guns just aren't a problem in the UK. Murder isn't a problem. Gangs? Maybe some drug-related gangs, but you won't see crips or bloods roaming the streets with glocks on the streets here. You might see a group of skinny little kids in hoodies though.

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Old 03-14-2014, 05:15 AM
 
Location: Monnem Germany/ from San Diego
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I have walked through some of the dodgiest parts of Europe without ever having any fear of bodily harm. I have lived in parts of San Diego where I did not go to the corner store without my 38 in my pocket.
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Old 03-14-2014, 08:47 AM
 
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He's talking nonsense. Gun-related crimes in the UK are extremely rare - even rarer are gun-related homicides. Only Japan has a lower rate of gun deaths than we do.

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His claim that you can hear shootings every night is laughable. I've never heard a gunshot before - not even once - in all my 26 years. Guns just aren't a problem in the UK. Murder isn't a problem. Gangs? Maybe some drug-related gangs, but you won't see crips or bloods roaming the streets with glocks on the streets here. You might see a group of skinny little kids in hoodies though.
These statistics say it all, thanks. I guess I was dealing with some Muricans who attempted to show Europe is no better than the US is this aspect but obviously(like always) terribly failed in doing so . Either that, or they are wannabe gangsters admiring US gang culture and wishing that upon Europe without really understanding what they are wishing for .
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Old 03-14-2014, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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There were 104 homicides in London (Pop 8.3 million) over the last 12 months.

Metropolitan Police Service - Crime Figures
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Old 03-16-2014, 07:11 PM
 
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You think these youngstas ready for war as they rap and the straps they show ??

Stone ft. Boosie - War - YouTube
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Old 03-16-2014, 09:01 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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No, crips are a Los Angeles gang, even the ones in other american cities are not real.
This is completely wrong! Maybe the ones in your city aren't but I assure you they are nationwide!
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Old 03-20-2014, 12:01 AM
 
Location: Polderland
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When the movie "the warriors" hit the theaters in the late 70's, we had a lot of little wannabe streetgangs, but it never became a big thing. Later on in the early 2000's we had the same with the crips and the bloods, but again "wannabees" and never became big. A few months ago i saw a documentary about MS13, saying they were also seen in Spain, but also nothing big.

The only gang/ like thing that became kind of big and worried people are the biker gangs. We have some problems with them from time to time, and Sweden and Germany too. But not as extreme as in the U.S. i think.

Streetgangs is just not our cup of tea i think. No, we rather kill eachother over a socker game

I wonder sometimes, does that occur in the U.S? I always thought hooligans are a typical European thing, but lately i heard that it's pretty big in South America too.
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