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I personally do hope Italy to remain status quo.
I have been trying to search for news about Rome's reaction to the referendum in the news but can't find anything. I was hoping maybe Rome can grant Veneto more autonomy. There are 20 regions in Italy and 5 are autonomous regions and 15 (including Veneto) are just ordinary. Maybe if Veneto can get more autonomy and pay tax at reasonable rate then it may preclude Veneto from gaining independence.
That referendum in Veneto was a joke... They just handed out some codes that allowed one to participate in an e-vote. Handpicked people and only those who want Veneto to break away actually participated...
I'm still wondering that this stunt got this much publicity...
"Portugal and Spain are not much worse than Germany."
That statement further strengthens my point because the debt owed between European countries will no longer be external.
If you add the external debt of each EU countries…. the resulting figure is astronomical!: List of countries by external debt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Instead of thinking it as an imperialism, you might as well treat it as a more efficient way of running things. The failure of the governments of some EU countries to run their country well economically/politically will affect the rest of Europe and the rest of the world. However, under a single European superstate, their problems won't affect the world as much and they will also receive more assistance from other stronger regions in the superstate.
You're right, but they will re-enter EU one day as the original parent country can't exclude them forever.
The debt that EU countries have among each other won't go away. And the debt that already exists will likely never be paid back, neither by European countries, nor by the US and similar countries drowning in debt. Banks will only give new credits to those troubled countries, if they are more or less sure they will get those new credits and the interests on both the existing and new credits back. But they know that the giant existing debt as such is lost. Although nobody says it clearly, everyone knows it. The fact is, there is way too much money out there, investors don't know what to do with their money. They are greedy so they feel like they need to invest it in some way. And even investing it in Greece is better than not receiving no interests at all.
Nor is debt in any way a justification for getting rid of nations' sovereignty, one doesn't have to do with the other. It's just money, some European countries have gone bankrupt half a dozen times each before. I don't understand why you are so much in favor of that socialist approach of trying to make something wonderfully heterogeneous into something boringly homogeneous. It's like saying: because a few companies are in trouble or have gone broke all companies should be fused into one giant company and run in a centralized way.
To the contrary, the trouble in Portugal or Greece only affects the rest of Europe BECAUSE there already is an EU which those countries are part of. Without the EU Greece's mess would not affect Europe at all.
The Superstate will exist in the coming future due to inertia, due to the momentum gathered. The superstate will end badly, as always, because as usual there will be members that will want to use other countries as a market for noncompetitive products, or to place money at rates above the market, or will use the European bank as their national bank.
UK acted is a very sound manner avoiding monetary union, but for other countries the error can't be solved anymore. At least, it seems that the rotten apples in the EEC do not contemplate military options anymore, but who knows!!! As the saying goes, the goats always go to the mountains!!! Anyways, a country can't lead Europe if dependent on Russia.
There has been quite a lot of sources nowadays about high-end EU officials attempting to move the EU towards a political federation like the Europe's version of the United States.
I personally think this integration into the European federation is inevitable, but before euro-phobes get pissed at me, I think it should be decided not by the citizens through a gradual process by which a national referendum in each member state of the EU will be held to let everyone in each member state decide whether they want to keep status quo or join the European superstate.
First, ministers from the EU commission should lay out all the rules, policies, and implications to everyone living in the European Union. For example, they will lay out the European federation's tax policies, single banking system, official languages at national level (probably English, French, German), change in administrative divisions, that all states have to adopt the Euro and all EU treaties without any opt-outs upon entering the European federation, and that the European federation will participate as a single entity in all sports team, etc.
Then each EU country will hold a referendum allowing their citizens to vote whether they want to join the European federation or prefer the status quo as merely a EU member. Of course, we expect most of the 28 EU countries will refuse to join this new superstate in their first referendum, but I think there will be a few countries that will choose to join the European Federation (such as Belgium, Luxembourg, Netherlands, France, Germany, etc.) Those countries that pass this referendum will first integrate into the European superstate.
The countries that chose not to join the European federation can observe how the European Federation does economically and politically. With unified tax and a single banking system, I believe there is a good chance the new superstate will prosper. Then those individual sovereign countries can gradually join the United States of Europe through future referendums.
I don't see anything wrong with my suggestion as long as it respects the wills of citizens in the EU.
I don't think so. As an economic union, it has never hit its targets. The new nationalism and anti-immigration (and even free movement) sentiments in the original member states are an even bigger barrier to a true European Federation.
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