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I'm also struggling to understand how that's a shame to Russia. Chechen rebels needed to be put down or the whole country might have erupted into civil war. There is no way however that the US was supporting the Chechen cause. Don't pin that on us...We only got involved enough to say that murdering civilians was a bad thing.
Shame? I think it's a very patriotic song. Alec, you must to understand that Russia has always fought. This is part of the national culture. This song about a fact that Russian army fought in a difficult historical period in Chechnya. It's true. And Putin stopped it. About this time:
P.S. Yiri Shevchuk is a very gifted musician - he is the ultimate voice of those times, and of that generation that took the brunt of the nineties. (Well he and probably Victor Tzoi.)
Oh, no. I think that Tzoi died too early, he did not manage to reach creative maturity.
I think that for the 90's it's more correct to call Trofimov ("Trofim"):
Yeah Tsoi is definitely more 80s than 90s. It might seem like 90's music to a Russian though since a lot of their 90's music was inspired by late 80s music in the west. To me he was in his own league.
Yeah Tsoi is definitely more 80s than 90s. It might seem like 90's music to a Russian though since a lot of their 90's music was inspired by late 80s music in the west. To me he was in his own league.
I agree. We can't consider Tsoi was one of Russian rock's musicians. I think his songs are between rock and pop style. They haven't as sharp sound as rock songs have. Although we can find in his lyrics more serious sense than in pop songs. But lexis of song's text is simple enough. It's sensitive and frank but not very philosophic or tedious. This is what teenagers want and Tsoi was their idol.
I'm also struggling to understand how that's a shame to Russia. Chechen rebels needed to be put down or the whole country might have erupted into civil war. There is no way however that the US was supporting the Chechen cause. Don't pin that on us...We only got involved enough to say that murdering civilians was a bad thing.
You're way out of your league. The US and Britain have the blood of Beslans children on their hands. A lot of the supporters of those terrorists fled to Britain and America with their ill gotten gains and distributed money to various groups. EDucate yourself. Or step out of this conversation.
Providing a bunch of links doesn't mean much, especially when all the responses are so generic. I don't like certain groups therefore they were funded by the CIA.
I don't like Trump, therefore Russia put him in power. See how the reverse logic works.
I e read a bunch of sources on various conflicts where the CIA is brought up, yet interestingly enough they all involve such cliche, generic responses. Why is it that none of them are able to go into depth when discussing issues? Who are these people? Don't use grocery lists like "bankers, lobbyists, globalists, zionists..."
Providing a bunch of links doesn't mean much, especially when all the responses are so generic. I don't like certain groups therefore they were funded by the CIA.
I don't like Trump, therefore Russia put him in power. See how the reverse logic works.
No. I have no idea what you are talking about. It's a well-known fact that the US gov. was using radical Islam in order to undermine Russian interests.
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I e read a bunch of sources on various conflicts where the CIA is brought up, yet interestingly enough they all involve such cliche, generic responses. Why is it that none of them are able to go into depth when discussing issues? Who are these people? Don't use grocery lists like "bankers, lobbyists, globalists, zionists..."
Who are these people? You want me to name them (home addresses including) or what?
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Songs of Tsoi
