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Old 06-17-2014, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Finland excecuted the last person in 1825, after that they were automatically 'pardoned' by the Czar and sent to Siberia, which practically meant death. The death penalty in peacetime was abolished in 1949 and in wartime in 1972.

Though, during the Civil War in 1918 almost 10,000 were excecuted, and over 11,000 starved to death in prison camps, sometimes on purpose. In WWII around 500 were officially excecuted (mostly spies and traitors), but some estimate that another 500 were excecuted just for desertion, especially in 1944.

There are some people, 33% according to nei's link, that supports the reinstation of the death penalty. What we would gain by it is more than uncertain, crimes that would 'justify' a death sentence are simply so extremely rare.
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Old 06-17-2014, 10:47 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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How in the world can anyone let a serial killer live?

Some people are simply evil and deserve to die, and that's just the way it should be.
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Old 06-17-2014, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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How in the world can anyone let a serial killer live?

Some people deserve to die, and that's just the way it should be.
But killing them clearly does nothing in preventing such incidents from happening again, so it basically boils down to moral superiority - this person killed people, he is evil and should die. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Old 06-17-2014, 10:57 AM
 
Location: StlNoco Mo, where the woodbine twineth
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Back in the 1800s public hangings in the U.S were treated like picnics. It was not unusual for 20,000-30,000 people to show up. Invitations were sent out, they had band music, bake sales and rain delays. When they hung Black Jack Ketchum they passed out little wooden dolls of him with a string around the necks. His hanging was botched and he was decapitated. There are pictures of the debacle on the internet. That's why most of the outlaws chose to shoot it out, they didn't want to do an air dance for the crowds.
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Old 06-17-2014, 11:05 AM
 
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But killing them clearly does nothing in preventing such incidents from happening again, so it basically boils down to moral superiority - this person killed people, he is evil and should die. Nothing more, nothing less.
Yes. And if it turns that the condemned was innocent, the justice become the murderer.
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Old 06-17-2014, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Eastwood, Orlando FL
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Yes. And if it turns that the condemned was innocent, the justice become the murderer.
140 people have been exonerated and released from Death Row since 1976. I wonder how many more innocent ones have been executed.

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Old 06-17-2014, 11:17 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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There are only two Western (Eastern Europe included) states that still use the death penalty and it is United States and Belarus. Israel, which is partly European, is one of few Western countries that use the death penalty in exceptional circumstances...

A total of "TWO" since 1948.
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Old 06-17-2014, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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How in the world can anyone let a serial killer live?

Some people are simply evil and deserve to die, and that's just the way it should be.
Has it ever occurred to you that maybe being executed is an easy way out for a serial killer?

Murderers aren't always afraid of death.Take the mass murder that happened here a month ago,that guy openly said that he wanted to do something "big" before being terminated.

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Yes. And if it turns that the condemned was innocent, the justice become the murderer.
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140 people have been exonerated and released from Death Row since 1973. I wonder how many more innicent ones have been executed.
Since the death penalty was reinstated in 1976, 1,373 convicted murderers have been executed in the United States.The ones that have been executed easily outnumbered the ones that have been exonerated.
To me,one innocent person executed is too many.
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Old 06-17-2014, 12:50 PM
 
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140 people have been exonerated and released from Death Row since 1976. I wonder how many more innocent ones have been executed.
yeah, as if putting an innocent man in jail for 25 years is any better than killing him.
There is no perfect justice. People just have to deal with it and its consequence.
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Old 06-17-2014, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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I think it was a great day for many Americans when Ted Bundy the clean cut law student was finally barbequed in the chair at Florida State Prison in 1989. Remember, this guy kept the whole nation in fear on his decades long homicidal rampage.
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