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Same in Spain, where everyone shares what they do asap, and there's no embarrassment in stating that one has a lower paying job. I never ran into long discussions about salaries in Spain, but several people told me their salaries there without any shame or anything.
In the U.S. it's next to impossible to find out what someone is making.
Easy topic to discuss at 54%+ in the under 25 age group. What do you make? Nothing! Me too, lets party as Spain has the best nightlife!
Salaries are opaque in the USA because the culture operates on a social model where how much money you make is tied in with morality. This goes way back to puritan times. Nobody wants to say they make too little because that means they are a bad person, and nobody wants to say they make too much because that means they are a braggart. In most European countries, economics are separate from morality.
Easy topic to discuss at 54%+ in the under 25 age group. What do you make? Nothing! Me too, lets party as Spain has the best nightlife!
I believe that the underemployment and unemployment in the U.S. (dead factories, dead towns, etc.) since jobs were taken to Asia, make the U.S. one of the worst unemployment countries. The actual reporting of unemployment and underemployment in the U.S. is, I believe (from what I'm sensing here) underreported. This is a problem particularly because here in the U.S. there are multiple costs people in Europe don't have, there is very little job security here, there is very little financial help when one loses a job, and families are fractured, distant, and they cannot provide any help.
People in the U.S. are far unhappier and have always been unhappier than people in Spain, and not because they're genetically different. It's because the U.S. lifestyle sucks, and I am being polite.
Salaries are opaque in the USA because the culture operates on a social model where how much money you make is tied in with morality. This goes way back to puritan times. Nobody wants to say they make too little because that means they are a bad person, and nobody wants to say they make too much because that means they are a braggart. In most European countries, economics are separate from morality.
Good point. Also, at workplaces in the U.S., it is a crime almost worse than a felony for people to share with one another how much money they make.
I believe that the underemployment and unemployment in the U.S. (dead factories, dead towns, etc.) since jobs were taken to Asia, make the U.S. one of the worst unemployment countries. The actual reporting of unemployment and underemployment in the U.S. is, I believe (from what I'm sensing here) underreported. This is a problem particularly because here in the U.S. there are multiple costs people in Europe don't have, there is very little job security here, there is very little financial help when one loses a job, and families are fractured, distant, and they cannot provide any help.
I believe, I sense - give me facts. What costs do people have in the US that people in Europe do not have? Besides A/C? I can tell you first hand about unemployment in Europe and in the US.
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People in the U.S. are far unhappier and have always been unhappier than people in Spain, and not because they're genetically different. It's because the U.S. lifestyle sucks, and I am being polite.
Good point. Also, at workplaces in the U.S., it is a crime almost worse than a felony for people to share with one another how much money they make.
Actually federal law makes it illegal for employers to prohibit employees from discussing their salaries, on their own time. Employees' right to discuss their compensation packages is protected by our laws. (Federal and municipal government agencies and religious schools are exempt from this law, but it applies to all other businesses.) Federal Laws for Employees' Right to Share Salary Information With Other Employees | Chron.com
I believe, I sense - give me facts. What costs do people have in the US that people in Europe do not have? Besides A/C? I can tell you first hand about unemployment in Europe and in the US.
Are you writing a dissertation? Or is your google search engine malfunctioning?
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To return the politeness - the roads are open.
They sure are. Those that lead south lead to nowhere good. Those that lead elsewhere, well, that depends on where the end of the road is going to be.
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