Sweden grows, but Swedes Shrink

[RecentlyMoved]

Originally Posted by Thirty All

So what?
I don't think the Swedes would mind if it were Norwegians, Danes, Germans, and Finns moving. But since it's Muslims and Eastern Europeans, they don't like it.

keep rolling your eyes and pretending there aren't long term implications

[RecentlyMoved]

Originally Posted by P London

Poor Sweden oh god all the weird people are coming! Oh no!!

You sound very xenophobic...

and the #1 boys name in England is ..............??

you're not far behind.

keep pretending there aren't long term implications

PS: in 2002, that name was 61st most popular in England

[NewbiePoster]

Originally Posted by RecentlyMoved

and the #1 boys name in England is ..............??

you're not far behind.

keep pretending there aren't long term implications

PS: in 2002, that name was 61st most popular in England

The difference is that it's a lot easier for foreigner immigrants to get jobs in England. Even if they don't speak the language that well. In Sweden, it's impossible, except for the occasional very menial job, if that.

[NewbiePoster]

Originally Posted by Ariete

They own their houses. Utilities are very cheap, cheaper than in America. And yes, they can get subsidies.

A couple of my friends there from my student days are very close to retirement, and they rent. Not everyone's in a position to buy a home during their working years.

[P London]

Originally Posted by RecentlyMoved

and the #1 boys name in England is ..............??

you're not far behind.

keep pretending there aren't long term implications

PS: in 2002, that name was 61st most popular in England

What is the most popular boys name in england? Ahmed, Mohammed, John??

I honestly don't care...

[NewbiePoster]

Originally Posted by P London

What is the most popular boys name in england? Ahmed, Mohammed, John??

I honestly don't care...

Suleyman.


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[BigSwede]

Originally Posted by Camlon

But because of the immigration surge it is almost impossible to get a cheap apartment in the cities.

I wouldn´t blame that on immigrants. They have no place in a gentrified society.
Plus no one builds cheap rental apartments anymore.

[Camlon]

Originally Posted by BigSwede

I wouldn´t blame that on immigrants. They have no place in a gentrified society.
Plus no one builds cheap rental apartments anymore.

You are right, the main blame should be on Swedish rent policies. You wont find the same problem in oslo despite high immigration.

But what I am saying is that immigration has made the situation unbearable in Sweden. Rent control and immigration is a bad mix.

[soUlwounD]

Start to make 8-12 kids, lot of fun for dark nights

[Vic_Vega]

Originally Posted by Camlon

In Sweden they do.

According to this article a single mother with two children will recieve $3000 per month in welfare and that is after tax. Försäkringskassan: Invandrarnas bidrag är "22 249 kr per månad och detta är inte skattepliktig inkomst" | Fria Tider
An ordinary Swede will not be able to get get anywhere close to that amount. In fact a lot of retired people live on less than $1500 per month. In fact low wage workers only earn $2000 per month after tax.

It works quite similarly here too. Probably one of the reasons why some people have the perception that "immigrants live like kings on welfare", is that they have families with a lot more kids than the average native and actually receive a ton of benefits. Which would be similarly available to the natives too, if they had like, say.. 7 kids, which they often times don't. Working a honest but low-to-average paying job many times does not make financial sense from the individuals standpoint in the nordic model.

I find it very disturbing if the talks about SD:s or their supporters actually getting "shut off" from the society are true. Not exactly a sign of an open, forward-thinking, modern democratic society.