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Old 09-17-2014, 10:29 AM
 
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Europeans are trying to compenstate for the self hate that they grapple with as they reflect on their past as the most brutal and immoral group of humans in human history. You see, they are in a state of deep depression. Like a depressed individual, they are seeking anything to numb the pain, and that includes self suicide. The logic is that perhaps by allowing mass immigration from the people they formerly enslaved they can fill this gaping void.

Asian and African nations do not suffer from this depression. They have no reason to allow mass European immigration. They are smart enough to see thst the best case scenario would be apartheid era South Africa. That is the most positive example of European mass migration to Africa.
This. Liberal White Guilt under the guise of political correctness has made many Euro nations self loathing.
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Old 09-17-2014, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Macao
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Criteria for becoming a British citizen:

- you’re 18 or over
- you’re of sound mind
- you’re of good character
- you’ll continue to live in the UK
- you have met the knowledge of English and life in the UK requirements
- lived in the UK for at least the 5 years before the date of your application
- spent no more than 450 days outside the UK during those 5 years
- spent no more than 90 days outside the UK in the last 12 months
- been granted indefinite leave to stay in the UK
- had indefinite leave to stay in the UK for the last 12 months (or permanent residence if you’re an EEA national)
- not broken any immigration laws while in the UK

Criteria for becoming a Japanese citizen:

- been living in Japan for at least 5 years. Also the bureau confirms whether you have been living in Japan at least 80% of the 365 days every year.
- you are required to be 20 years of age or older and have reached the official age as an adult in your home country.
- of good character in your daily life
- have not been involved in any crime or been a nuisance to society
- sufficient income
- you must be of a nature to abide by the Japanese Peace Constitution
- you need to have Japanese reading and writing skills at least equivalent to an ordinary 7 to 8 year old Japanese primary school student

Quite frankly, I don't get your point. If you don't want to integrate into society by learning the language you'll have troubles to "be truly one of them" pretty much everywhere in the world.
Link, please?

I lived in Japan for 6 years, and even know some 3rd generation Americans with all three generations still using their American passports.

It's possible to get Japanese Residency! But if you leave the country for even one year without coming back, you automatically lose it. It takes a minimum of 5 years before you can even think of applying to Residency. Citizenship is near impossible, it does happen, but it's near impossible.
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Old 09-17-2014, 10:32 AM
 
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Europeans have destroyed this world so much during colonisation that its so entrenched in society its almost invisible. Its like the white elephant in the room, Whites are not meanies but the ones that have caused destruction and brainwashing in this world.


Go read a book that isn't whitewashed...
Intellectual honesty time: Who sold Africans into slavery to European colonialists? Political Correctness has rotted your brain.
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Old 09-17-2014, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Pérouges
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Europeans are trying to compenstate for the self hate that they grapple with as they reflect on their past as the most brutal and immoral group of humans in human history. You see, they are in a state of deep depression. Like a depressed individual, they are seeking anything to numb the pain, and that includes self suicide. The logic is that perhaps by allowing mass immigration from the people they formerly enslaved they can fill this gaping void.

Asian and African nations do not suffer from this depression. They have no reason to allow mass European immigration. They are smart enough to see thst the best case scenario would be apartheid era South Africa. That is the most positive example of European mass migration to Africa.
If this wasn't so delusional it'd be amusing.

Sadly however, delusional is all it is...
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Old 09-17-2014, 10:35 AM
 
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Why would anyone from Europe want to move to Asia, Africa or the Middle East? Except for Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Israel or Japan it is basically all third world out there with terrible health-care, education, housing, infrastructure, etc. Nothing there for us.
You're missing the point. The point is the double standard and hypocrisy. If European nations decide to curb their immigration, they're considered "intolerant" or "racist" or "xenophobic" yet most Asian countries have much more stringent immigration laws and are not held to the same standard. The op made a great point.
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Old 09-17-2014, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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Link, please?

I lived in Japan for 6 years, and even know some 3rd generation Americans with all three generations still using their American passports.

It's possible to get Japanese Residency! But if you leave the country for even one year without coming back, you automatically lose it. It takes a minimum of 5 years before you can even think of applying to Residency. Citizenship is near impossible, it does happen, but it's near impossible.
Is it because that they have no intention to give up their American citizenship?Japan is pretty strict when it comes to dual citizenship.If you want to naturalize,you'd have to give up your original citizenship right away.

And yeah,residency is really hard to get in Japan.
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Old 09-17-2014, 10:43 AM
 
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If this wasn't so delusional it'd be amusing.

Sadly however, delusional is all it is...
It's 100% true. Over the top Political Correctness has rendered many European Nations self loathing.
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Old 09-17-2014, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Macao
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Actually another pet peeve of mine is that ONLY JAPAN is expected to become an immigrant nation in Asia. This same conversation is going right there again.

Japan is only one country in Asia. It's also a rich wealthy one, that people always want to open up widely for their own gain.

What about all the others, all the supposedly 'undesirable' ones, those same ones that often have some of the strictest anti-immigrant laws out there. If they are so incredibly undesirable, why not open their countries up to the possibility of taking in immigrants, in a recipricol way, even if no one actually takes them up on it?
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Old 09-17-2014, 11:00 AM
 
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Very little in this world is that, the post to which you refer most certainly isn't....

.... as it happens, nor is yours.
Yet, you've made no points to refute it. The number one name of baby boys in England is now Muhammad. That should scare the crap out of you, but mention this to the average Brit and they bend over backwards trying to be politically correct, even accusing the person that brings this fact up as "intolerant" or "racist". Your culture is being destroyed due to extreme political correctness and you have no one to blame but yourself.
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Old 09-17-2014, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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I found this thing,maybe Asia is not as anti-immigration as we thought.

There were 5004 people naturalized as Taiwanese citizens in the year of 2013,96.4% of them were female(mail order brides.No discrimination,our bureau of immigration said that,not me),and 77% of them were Vietnamese.

Taiwanese citizenship is easier than Japanese or Korean to obtain as we recognize dual/multiple citizenship.The number is still very few compare to that of the US or Canada though.(it's not a very desirable citizenship to begin with lol)

In the same year,there were 227 Taiwanese citizens gave up Taiwanese citizenship then obtained Japanese citizenship.
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