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In normal winter temperatures that we have during daytime, around 0 to -5C, you hardly need "15 layers", but normal clothes, a proper winter jacket, a scarf, cap and gloves. Hardly takes 10 minutes to undress.
You don't defrost the car. If you don't have a garage, it takes a couple of minutes to scrape the windows.
If you want to have a lunchtime coffee, go ahead, but I don't see any delight in having it outside in a windy moist rainy dark 6C UK-winter, with windchills that feels like 0C. Red and blotchy skin is due to poor clothing, because I don't experience it. Wind causes the eyes to stream, not the cold. Streets are plowed and sanded, so with proper shoes you don't slip.
Advantages are the overall aesthetic of the landscape, and if it's a longer freeze, it is not moist and wet, but dry. I rather have a proper snowy winter than a 4-month November.
Looks like you hate cold because you have never learned to cope with it.
Ah the ole stereotype - its not always 'windy moist rainy' here you know! Dark yes (but still with longer daylight hours than a lot of Europe. It doesn't matter if it takes 'a couple of minutes' or not to scrape away at your windows its still 'a couple of minutes' which is saved in a warm climate, the fact that the streets have to be 'ploughed and sanded' is another reason to dislike the cold. I have been in Zagreb in winter time - it was below freezing for the whole 2 weeks of my first visit and it was uncomfortably cold, I was taken to see the 'sights' but had to wear 2 pairs of jeans, 3 pairs of socks, vests, T-shirts, Jumper, scarf and coat as well as two pairs of gloves and a 'beany' hat but still we could only stay out for 30 minutes or so. The streets were deserted because of the cold. The next time I visited (in June) it was 30 degrees or so and we sat out with crowds, had coffee, watched street entertainers shopped and generally had very pleasant days out not just in the city but in the surrounding countryside - the reason for the difference was simply the weather. Apart from winter sports I cant see any advantage to sub-freezing weather over warm weather at all?
Apart from winter sports I cant see any advantage to sub-freezing weather over warm weather at all?
Our winters are not even remotely warm, so any advantage we have over colder climates is minute - and these colder climates have the benefit of significantly warmer, sunnier summers - which we do not. So all in all, a continental climate is always preferable to an oceanic climate.
Plus, we have seen what mild and snowless winters can yield - last winter was exceedingly mild and snowless, but also wet - very wet even - with widespread flooding and damage to property. I think snow - a minor inconvenience to your morning commute - is preferable to irreversible water damage and thousands of pounds worth of repairs.
while i dont care for really hot weather , i think a warm climate is priceless . i dont live in a country with one
california , much of australia , spain , portugal , those are my ideal
Bare in mind, in California, this idea climate is restricted to a narrow band of about 10 miles of the ocean. Once passed that, the temperatures in summer average over 30 celcius. Many areas over 35C. There's a thread in the CA forum talking about this.
Our winters are not even remotely warm, so any advantage we have over colder climates is minute - and these colder climates have the benefit of significantly warmer, sunnier summers - which we do not. So all in all, a continental climate is always preferable to an oceanic climate.
Plus, we have seen what mild and snowless winters can yield - last winter was exceedingly mild and snowless, but also wet - very wet even - with widespread flooding and damage to property. I think snow - a minor inconvenience to your morning commute - is preferable to irreversible water damage and thousands of pounds worth of repairs.
Tell me about it! However they are significantly more comfortable than most of the rest of Northern Europe, I don't like 8 degrees C (about the average winter temperature where I live) but I dislike -5 degrees C even more! At least when its 8 degrees there is no defrosting of everything outside (including yourself). Also I think you will find that the 'colder climates' as you put it do not have 'significantly' warmer sunnier summers than I have here in West Sussex. I am not saying the weather where I live is 'great' like I've mentioned for me I would want to live in the Med for the weather, however I can't see any advantage of a winter time sub zero climate over the mild weather we have here. Also mild snowless winters (common in West Sussex) don't usually mean constant rain.
Tell me about it! However they are significantly more comfortable than most of the rest of Northern Europe, I don't like 8 degrees C (about the average winter temperature where I live) but I dislike -5 degrees C even more! At least when its 8 degrees there is no defrosting of everything outside (including yourself). Also I think you will find that the 'colder climates' as you put it do not have 'significantly' warmer sunnier summers than I have here in West Sussex. I am not saying the weather where I live is 'great' like I've mentioned for me I would want to live in the Med for the weather, however I can't see any advantage of a winter time sub zero climate over the mild weather we have here. Also mild snowless winters (common in West Sussex) don't usually mean constant rain.
All in all, I just despise the wetness of a 0-6° winter. Given the right clothes you can't even feel the difference between 0-6° and -5°. Snowflakes (at the right temperature) tend to just bounce of your jacket, whereas rain soaks through it.
But hey, in the end it's just something you get used to.
Tell me about it! However they are significantly more comfortable than most of the rest of Northern Europe, I don't like 8 degrees C (about the average winter temperature where I live) but I dislike -5 degrees C even more! At least when its 8 degrees there is no defrosting of everything outside (including yourself). Also I think you will find that the 'colder climates' as you put it do not have 'significantly' warmer sunnier summers than I have here in West Sussex. I am not saying the weather where I live is 'great' like I've mentioned for me I would want to live in the Med for the weather, however I can't see any advantage of a winter time sub zero climate over the mild weather we have here. Also mild snowless winters (common in West Sussex) don't usually mean constant rain.
In fact, there are regularly floods in Eastern Germany, considered (compared to England) a continental or semi-continental climate. And the summers in centrl/northern central Europe are only marginally warmer than in England (with a lot of rain sometimes , I experienced that a few summers long in southern Germany)
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true enough
