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Old 01-24-2015, 01:01 PM
 
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In absolute terms the US probably already has more such relationships that France, simply because of the sheer mass of black Americans.
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Old 01-25-2015, 11:48 AM
 
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I understand that all black Americans are mulattoes and that about 30 percent of all the people called "Anglo" has African blood.

There were periods in American History in which blacks were respected, for example, during the 18th century. There was even a expresident with a black woman.
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Old 01-25-2015, 12:18 PM
 
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I don't think all black Americans are mulattoes. Even during the times when blacks had it good, mixing was not common. Since there has always been little mixing, "white genes" in blacks have been watered down a whole lot from generation to generation. There still are lots of AA's who look African and nothing but African.
With mulattoes you usually see the mixing.
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Old 01-25-2015, 02:34 PM
 
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I understand that all black Americans are mulattoes and that about 30 percent of all the people called "Anglo" has African blood.

There were periods in American History in which blacks were respected, for example, during the 18th century. There was even a expresident with a black woman.
i agree, i took my boyfriend from europe to the Us and he stood out, he didnt look at all like white americans, it was obvious he looked foreign in his body shape (taller), longer shape of face, just different nose, eyes.... something about him just looked out of place!!

then we saw some germans and interestingly enough they looked at each other and the germans asked him, are u from europe? he said yes, and then they exchange information about country of origin what they liked about america and how long were they gonna be there.

africans also look quite different to american blacks, they have tons of american black soldiers in europe and u can always tell when u see them out and about, africans look way different!
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Old 01-25-2015, 02:43 PM
 
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White Americans look very diverse, just like in Europe, thus there is no point in saying white Americans look different from white Europeans.

AA's look mostly different because they dress differently from Africans. Other than that most AA's (except for the obvious mulattoes) look no different than Nigerians or Ghanaians. Of course they look different from Somalis etc. since that is not the part where the ancestors of AA's came from.

Found data on genes:
"On average, the scientists found, people who identified as African-American had genes that were only 73.2 percent African. European genes accounted for 24 percent of their DNA, while .8 percent came from Native Americans.

Latinos, on the other hand, had genes that were on average 65.1 percent European, 18 percent Native American, and 6.2 percent African. The researchers found that European-Americans had genomes that were on average 98.6 percent European, .19 percent African, and .18 Native American."
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/25/sc...tudy.html?_r=0

The last sentence shows that European-Americans are still extremely European genetically speaking.

Black people have a bigger European genetic contribution, but still, 73% means predominantly African. People like Bill Cosby could easily pass for Africans. When you do an image search for African American actors or actresses, most of those people could pass for Africans. And that despite Hollywood's racist attitude, which prefers lighter-skinned black people, so in everyday life AA's look even more African on average.

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Old 01-25-2015, 03:33 PM
 
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White Americans look very diverse, just like in Europe, thus there is no point in saying white Americans look different from white Europeans.

AA's look mostly different because they dress differently from Africans. Other than that most AA's (except for the obvious mulattoes) look no different than Nigerians or Ghanaians. Of course they look different from Somalis etc. since that is not the part where the ancestors of AA's came from.

Found data on genes:
"On average, the scientists found, people who identified as African-American had genes that were only 73.2 percent African. European genes accounted for 24 percent of their DNA, while .8 percent came from Native Americans.

Latinos, on the other hand, had genes that were on average 65.1 percent European, 18 percent Native American, and 6.2 percent African. The researchers found that European-Americans had genomes that were on average 98.6 percent European, .19 percent African, and .18 Native American."
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/25/sc...tudy.html?_r=0

The last sentence shows that European-Americans are still extremely European genetically speaking.

Black people have a bigger European genetic contribution, but still, 73% means predominantly African. People like Bill Cosby could easily pass for Africans. When you do an image search for African American actors or actresses, most of those people could pass for Africans. And that despite Hollywood's racist attitude, which prefers lighter-skinned black people, so in everyday life AA's look even more African on average.
Americans the white ones often stand out like a sore thumb in Europe

I CANT STAND this American ideal that they are UNIQUE because they are SOOOOOOOOOO SPECIAL, no they are not... most americans look easily american, you can spot them right away, their fashion style, their mannerisms, the way they look, they way they talk and interact....

and yes I also read over 30% of white americans have close african ancestry and almost over half of them have native american heritage and for black americans the levels of admixture was even higher!
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Old 01-26-2015, 05:46 AM
 
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Some stand out because of the way they dress, you know, shorts, baseball cap etc., because they are fatter, and because of their pronunciation. But all those normal guys like Edward Snowden etc. look just like Europeans.

Provide sources. 30% of whites do certainly not have "close African ancestry", the DNA data simply contradicts that claim. In fact, white Americans are still surprisingly pure European, which is probably the result of centuries of racism and social taboos. Of course there were mixed-race kids, but with the first generation it was very obvious (just like it is today when a black and a white person have a child), so according to the one-drop thinking those people were automatically considered blacks by whites and the likelihood of their being yet another mixed-race relationship in the next generation of that mixed person was very little. So the whites remained pretty white, basically just like Europeans, whereas the blacks received the mixed-race offspring and mixed with them, which explains the relatively high percentage of white genes among blacks.
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Old 01-26-2015, 08:53 AM
 
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I don't think all black Americans are mulattoes. Even during the times when blacks had it good, mixing was not common. Since there has always been little mixing, "white genes" in blacks have been watered down a whole lot from generation to generation. There still are lots of AA's who look African and nothing but African.
With mulattoes you usually see the mixing.


They are, there are many studies about the subject. Americans loved to "grow" "in-house" slaves, while Spanish, French and English sugar factories bought slaves from Africa.

Yes, a lot of mixing, but it's a taboo and was prosecuted by law, just as in many European countries in the past.

I met once a German black in Cuba, he worked for the German Embassy. His mother was German and his father a black Cuban musician, his mother and him were expelled from Germany. That person was totally German, quite curious.
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Old 01-26-2015, 09:24 AM
 
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They are, there are many studies about the subject. Americans loved to "grow" "in-house" slaves, while Spanish, French and English sugar factories bought slaves from Africa.

Yes, a lot of mixing, but it's a taboo and was prosecuted by law, just as in many European countries in the past.

I met once a German black in Cuba, he worked for the German Embassy. His mother was German and his father a black Cuban musician, his mother and him were expelled from Germany. That person was totally German, quite curious.
A German can't be expelled from Germany. You must have misunderstood something. Or are you talking about Nazi Germany? In that case you must be ancient yourself

Many African-Americans are somewhat mixed, but unless the mixing continues, any mixing of the past is gradually undone.
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Old 01-26-2015, 12:09 PM
 
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He was born during the late 30's, so he must be in his 70's if he's alive.
He was expelled as a kid along with his German mother.
All African Americans are mixed, they are mulattoes.
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