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Old 01-14-2015, 01:29 PM
 
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Has anyone noticed that places where homosexuality is encouraged (Europe, North American etc)....those places have lower birth rates than places where homosexuality is considered bad (Africa)
Nowhere is homosexually "encouraged" (ie. encourage straight people to be gay). Tolerance (or "encouragement") doesn't increase gay population.

But I guess you were talking about places where gay people get the freedom to be gay, instead of being forced to marry a person of opposite sex they are not attracted to?

Africa has high birth rate because poorer countries all have higher birth rate. It doesn't have much to do homosexuality. Singapore isn't exactly friendly with homosexuality (it is banned), but the birth rate is quite low.

 
Old 01-14-2015, 01:34 PM
 
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No. They just aren't nearly as chained down by oppressive religious dogma as certain parts of the world are.
 
Old 01-14-2015, 02:17 PM
 
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Nowhere is homosexually "encouraged" (ie. encourage straight people to be gay). Tolerance (or "encouragement") doesn't increase gay population.

But I guess you were talking about places where gay people get the freedom to be gay, instead of being forced to marry a person of opposite sex they are not attracted to?

Africa has high birth rate because poorer countries all have higher birth rate. It doesn't have much to do homosexuality. Singapore isn't exactly friendly with homosexuality (it is banned), but the birth rate is quite low.
Well, obviously not all countries are going to be like that. But overall, if you compare them, countries where homosexuality is encouraged, the birth rate is lower. For example, compare Yemen's birth rate (4.21) to Germany (1.38). In fact, pick any country in Europe or North American, and for the most part, they will have lower birth rate than Africa and Middle East because it's pretty rare to practice homosexuality there.

But yes, Singaporeans do practice homosexuality, they are also getting brainwashed...that's why they have a low birth rate of only 1.29

BBC News - Is Singapore's stance on homosexuality changing?
 
Old 01-14-2015, 02:31 PM
 
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Well, obviously not all countries are going to be like that. But overall, if you compare them, countries where homosexuality is encouraged, the birth rate is lower. For example, compare Yemen's birth rate (4.21) to Germany (1.38). In fact, pick any country in Europe or North American, and for the most part, they will have lower birth rate than Africa and Middle East because it's pretty rare to practice homosexuality there.

But yes, Singaporeans do practice homosexuality, they are also getting brainwashed...that's why they have a low birth rate of only 1.29

BBC News - Is Singapore's stance on homosexuality changing?
As I said, poorer nations tend to have high birth rates. How do you know your Yemen vs Netherland example is a different of gay policy, not other factors?

Your argument will be more convincing if you can prove two countries with similar GDP per capita/HDI have significantly different birth rate due to their policies toward homosexuality. For example, Does Texas have higher birth rate than Massachusetts?

Iran, where be gay is punishable by imprisonment, has a fertility rate of 1.9, similar to Norway.
 
Old 01-14-2015, 03:18 PM
 
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As I said, poorer nations tend to have high birth rates. How do you know your Yemen vs Netherland example is a different of gay policy, not other factors?

Your argument will be more convincing if you can prove two countries with similar GDP per capita/HDI have significantly different birth rate due to their policies toward homosexuality. For example, Does Texas have higher birth rate than Massachusetts?

Iran, where be gay is punishable by imprisonment, has a fertility rate of 1.9, similar to Norway.
European countries are supposed to have more kids since they are richer right (since they can afford it)? But they can't because homosexuality is so common there. Uhhh...for the millionth time, I said if you compare Europe and Middle East as a continent, Middle East will have higher birth rate..

I know there are countries in Middle East that have lower birth rate than in liberal countries in Europe...but I'm comparing Europe (the whole continent) to the Arabian peninsula/Northern Africa region.
 
Old 01-14-2015, 03:25 PM
 
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European countries are supposed to have more kids since they are richer right (since they can afford it)? But they can't because homosexuality is so common there. Uhhh...for the millionth time, I said if you compare Europe and Middle East as a continent, Middle East will have higher birth rate..

I know there are countries in Middle East that have lower birth rate than in liberal countries in Europe...but I'm comparing Europe (the whole continent) to the Arabian peninsula/Northern Africa region.
Well in Eastern Europe there are laws against homosexuality and a far higher percentage of people in Eastern Europe see homosexuality as immoral compared to Western Europe yet in general the birth rates are lower in Eastern Europe compared to Western Europe.

Here is an good example of the high level of homosexuality in Belarus:
Gays in Belarus face raids and arrests for trying to form a rights group
MINSK, Belarus – Police in Belarus are going after gays, raiding their clubs and locking up clubbers overnight, and summoning gay activists for questioning. One activist accuses police of beating him during questioning, while others say they were interrogated about their sex lives. The leader of a gay rights organization was stripped of his passport just ahead of a planned trip to the United States.
Gays in Belarus face raids and arrests for trying to form a rights group | Fox News

Belarus has a birth rate of 1.4, Russia has a birth rate of 1.6.

Yet Belarus birth rate is lower than most of Western Europe, Russia is the same and it also has anti homosexual laws. Yet they are not the only East European countries that have anti homosexual laws.

So according to your logic if Eastern Europe has a lower birth rate than most of Western Europe homosexuality is more common in Eastern Europe.

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Old 01-14-2015, 03:44 PM
 
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Well in Eastern Europe there are laws against homosexuality and a far higher percentage of people in Eastern Europe see homosexuality as immoral compared to Western Europe yet in general the birth rates are lower in Eastern Europe compared to Western Europe.

Here is an good example of the high level of homosexuality in Belarus:
Gays in Belarus face raids and arrests for trying to form a rights group
MINSK, Belarus – Police in Belarus are going after gays, raiding their clubs and locking up clubbers overnight, and summoning gay activists for questioning. One activist accuses police of beating him during questioning, while others say they were interrogated about their sex lives. The leader of a gay rights organization was stripped of his passport just ahead of a planned trip to the United States.
Gays in Belarus face raids and arrests for trying to form a rights group | Fox News

Yet Belarus birth rate is lower than most of Western Europe, Russia is the same and it also has anti homosexual laws. Yet they are not the only East European countries that have anti homosexual laws.

So according to your logic if Eastern Europe has a lower birth rate than most of Western Europe homosexuality is more common in Eastern Europe.
hmmm...you are right about Belarus. That is really strange. Russia's birth rate WAS also dying BUT look at the correlation of Russia's birth rate and homosexuality now. OK look at the chart below



It says that in 2007, 20% of Russians supported gay marriage but in 2013, it dropped down to 16%. As more and more people came out of the gay agenda, the Russian birth rate went higher. Look at how the birth rate grew tremendously.
'Dying' Russia's Birth Rate Is Now Higher Than America's - Forbes
 
Old 01-14-2015, 04:11 PM
 
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hmmm...you are right about Belarus. That is really strange. Russia's birth rate WAS also dying BUT look at the correlation of Russia's birth rate and homosexuality now. OK look at the chart below



It says that in 2007, 20% of Russians supported gay marriage but in 2013, it dropped down to 16%. As more and more people came out of the gay agenda, the Russian birth rate went higher. Look at how the birth rate grew tremendously.
'Dying' Russia's Birth Rate Is Now Higher Than America's - Forbes
The reason why the birth rates have increased is the Russian government in the last few years has offered generous incentives for families to have children, the more children they have the more incentives they receive from the Government.

Well what about Poland then? In 2007 45% of Polish people believed homosexuality should be accepted. In 2013 it declined to 42%. The birth rate in Poland is even lower than Russia and Belarus. Yet Polish women in the UK have a bigger birth rate than in their own country. The birth rate for Polish women in the UK is 2.1%. That is a huge difference. http://www.thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/1...aby-boom-in-UK
 
Old 01-14-2015, 04:25 PM
 
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Oh sorry, I forgot to mention that since the French are also snapping out of the gay agenda, their birth rate is also pretty high. France is one of the few European countries with a birth rate at least replacement rate of 2.01

With 2.01 children per woman, France has one of the highest fertility rates in Europe - France-Diplomatie - Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Development
 
Old 01-14-2015, 04:31 PM
 
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Oh sorry, I forgot to mention that since the French are also snapping out of the gay agenda, their birth rate is also pretty high. France is one of the few European countries with a birth rate at least replacement rate of 2.01

With 2.01 children per woman, France has one of the highest fertility rates in Europe - France-Diplomatie - Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Development
What about Poland then? How do you explain that? How come Polish women in the UK have more children than Poland? Yet from 2007 to 2013 there has been an increase in Polish people that do not see homosexuality as acceptable.

With regards the France, immigration is the real reason for the increase in population. In addition France offers generous welfare programs to mothers that have children. Plus it is more likely immigrants in France are more likely to have more children than native French people.

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