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wow we actually have some users here paid by kremlin to spread the propaganda
man. Just read. I put there proof about annual exercises for reservists, wich erasure and Maksim_Frolov are talking. And no more word from myself) This is seems that you are beforehand afraid of me
wow we actually have some users here paid by kremlin to spread the propaganda
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The problem is - there is a big Putin's fan base out there, so it's not easy to tell who is paid or not.
The sheer passion of this fella and laborious posts indicate rather unpaid activities.
While I often disagree with you Erasure, you at least have been around for a while so I think you are for real. But all these instant new "comrades" that popped up since 2014? Call me very skeptical and I agree with Movingthrustates. I do not trust any of them.
While I often disagree with you Erasure, you at least have been around for a while so I think you are for real. But all these instant new "comrades" that popped up since 2014? Call me very skeptical and I agree with Movingthrustates. I do not trust any of them.
But you trust you mind?)
Of course i'll proofing every thing i saying. Cause every one can lie, it is undestandable.
While I often disagree with you Erasure, you at least have been around for a while so I think you are for real. But all these instant new "comrades" that popped up since 2014? Call me very skeptical and I agree with Movingthrustates. I do not trust any of them.
You do not "trust them" in what sense?
That what they say is a "paid propaganda" like what Amok is pushing here?
But it's not.
At least I don't think so. After knowing so much about Russia's current political field, I can tell you that few Russian posters here belong to different political camps - like Moskvich (Moscovite) and Maxim Frolov for example. Amok is from different camp all together - he is from Putins' camp. You think that these people are not "for real"? Think twice. They have specific outlook, they are quick in "connecting dots" without any particular digging, their knowledge of things is often superficial ( although they think it's deep,) and it's often limited to specific sources of information. What they believe in, what they think when it comes to history/politics - are their sincere beliefs. So to dismiss it simply as "paid propaganda" is rather unwise. It's better to take note of it.
Why always remain stuck in WW2 ? the borders of Eastern Europe changed
constantly through history
Of course. And it is very evident that WWII figures prominently in how the history of Europe has fared to the modern day especially Eastern and Central Europe.
Putin I think follows in a long line of Soviet heads of state who love 'territory' and gravely fear its loss. Therefore an inch 'lost' insults all those Soviets who died for the motherland. The fight for Ukraine is no doubt a continuation of what was 'left over' from the war. No doubt the hatreds that were never allayed, always burning in some back-room of the Russian psyche. Putin follows the tradition, like Stalin on the eve of taking Berlin in the war, of making sure he has his so that he can direct future action inn the political, economic and social spheres for the benefit of the Soviet state.
This of course makes Europe and the West react just as in the post-war to Russian aggression and prevarication inherent in her aims. It's almost as if the Cold War once gain figures into prominence with boots now thumping around on the ground. NATO is once again taking stock and rightly so. Poland, who suffered much through Stalin's machinations in the division of Europe and its particular malevolent interference in its political affairs at the time, knows the issues. When one is bitten they're twice shy as to Russian intentions. And as for NATO ,countries who felt the wrath of previous Russian occupation had every right to join NATO. Seems to be a very natural reaction in living next door to a Wizard of Russian OZ with lions and tigers and bears, eh?...;-)...
As for WWII and the post war back then Europe and the West absolutely knew the Russians were fomenting trouble and mayhem in their future satellite states. They displayed their aggression openly as well as clandestinely. Today well they've dismissed that completely. Now they've gone 'undercover'. No Russian soldiers are in Ukraine! Ironic that so many 'ghosts' are wreaking death and destruction onto a former 'brother-state'. Shades of an Orwellain terror tale.
Of course. And it is very evident that WWII figures prominently in how the history of Europe has fared to the modern day especially Eastern and Central Europe.
Putin I think follows in a long line of Soviet heads of state who love 'territory' and gravely fear its loss. Therefore an inch 'lost' insults all those Soviets who died for the motherland.
Travric sorry to say you are stuck in the previous century.
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The fight for Ukraine is no doubt a continuation of what was 'left over' from the war.
Clearly not, because Ukraine ( except for the Western provinces) was not a part of Eastern European countries that were taken over by the USSR after the second world war. It was part of the USSR BEFORE the WWII, and part of the Russian Empire before that for 300 years.
That's where you are constantly getting confused.
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