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Old 03-13-2015, 10:40 AM
 
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A Pew poll was published a while ago that show Germans are more likely to believe that external forces can influence one's fate. They also less optimistic about the future.

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Old 03-13-2015, 11:31 AM
 
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Could you provide a source for this poll?

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Old 03-13-2015, 12:48 PM
 
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Could you provide a source for this poll?

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U.S. and European Millennials differ on their views of fate, future | Pew Research Center
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Old 03-13-2015, 01:14 PM
 
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Germans have been fatalists for a long time.

The inevitable march of history and man's inability to affect his own fate is a recurrent theme in german literature.

Who knows why. Maybe it is just the weather?
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Old 03-20-2015, 05:56 PM
 
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Britain and Ireland are much more individualistic, not robotic. We are more into music ( says it all), writing and the arts ( though the Bro Grimm were not bad, their prose was very Germanic and rigid). I am not surprised that the English, despite having Anglo-Saxon shoved down their throats, have still 75% minimum Celtic/Brythonic blood. Anglo-Saxon blood is only 20%-part-in the south of the UK. Brits though, like the Irish and Germans do share common traits, drinking and slight racial intolerance. The British are much nearer the Irish, the Dutch/French nearer the British while the Germans are nearer Eastern Europe and Scandinavia in their views and outlook.
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Old 03-20-2015, 05:58 PM
 
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And Horse Racing. A very Celtic thing, love of horses.
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Old 03-20-2015, 06:06 PM
 
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We are more into music ( says it all), writing and the arts .
Writing yes, other than that there's little British in music or arts which are world level, unlike French, Dutch and Germans whose classical music and paintings are world renown.

I'd say Germans are less optimistic because they are more realistic and smart.
They know that endless run after materialistic stuff is a doom, unlike British/Americans which societies are solely built on that notion of materialistic "success".
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Old 03-20-2015, 07:35 PM
 
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I'd say Germans are less optimistic because they are more realistic and smart.
They know that endless run after materialistic stuff is a doom, unlike British/Americans which societies are solely built on that notion of materialistic "success".
I was thinking that as well. Intelligence.

I'm not saying optimistic people aren't intelligent. But there is often an element of naivety in blind optimism.
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Old 03-20-2015, 10:34 PM
 
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Germans have been fatalists for a long time.

The inevitable march of history and man's inability to affect his own fate is a recurrent theme in german literature.

Who knows why. Maybe it is just the weather?
No, it's not "just the weather."
German fatalism doesn't come out of nowhere. Germans too, historically, like Russians had very conservative governments that ruled them with "iron fist." Like Russians, they are strong-willed people with strong convictions, so the feeling that one's fate becomes inescapable when the clouds get dark on the horizon is very understandable. Most freedom-loving, kindest and gentlest of them get under the steam-roller first. Man's inability to affect his own fate is a recurrent theme in Russian literature as well.
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Old 03-21-2015, 02:31 AM
 
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Believing that one can alter one's destiny is a good thing.... however Germans are too robotic, too same same same, rules, laws, steps for everything.
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