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Well yes they can live there if they get a job. They can also stay for six months of the year and I should know my uncle is Canadian and he lives there for a long time each year.
Yes but that's the same for everybody, not just Canadians. Most Canadians applying for a job in the US has to go through the same rules and paperwork that a Brit, Mexican, and Indian would, unless they qualify for a TN visa (Mexicans also have this too). That's a very small number, though.
To stay six months every year, they have to apply for a B2 visa, which anyone can apply for. But, for people from VWP countries, the only way to get that visa is usually they have to be retired or completely self-sufficient on income in Canada. Canadians don't just show up here and we say come on through, like the British do to Irish citizens. It is not the same at all.
The point I'm making is, you, and pigeonhole and probably someone else, are confusing what freedom of movement means. Freedom of movement means you have the right to live and work in another country. You, as an EU citizen, have the right to live and work anywhere in the EU. If you need a visa, like Canadians to the US, you do not have freedom of movement. If the EU was dissolved tomorrow, what would happen to the Europeans who live in another EU country that isn't their own? They will lose freedom of movement and might have to return to their origin country and can't come back as easily to the country they lived in under freedom of movement
No they don't have to apply for the visa its stamped on their passport like it is 3 months for me.
That is not freedom of movement. That stamp means you have been granted permission to visit. In other words, that stamp is a privilege, not a right, and you can be deported
Edit, I saw you're right. Canadians can stay up to six months like Americans can stay up to six months in the UK. But, they can still be deported. It does not mean Canadians have freedom of movement. Read my other post, you're straying off topic
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Well its enough for the Canadians to holiday in Arizona for many many months. The USA really needs to get a grip, I think at least Canadians should be allowed to live there.
Well its enough for the Canadians to holiday in Arizona for many many months. The USA really needs to get a grip, I think at least Canadians should be allowed to live there.
OK, gotta remind you, this still has nothing to do with freedom of movement in Europe, which the point of this topic is EU
One example of how crappy the EU is is the immigration crisis. Almost every week there is another catastrophe. Today alone about 700 (!) people have drowned on their way to Europe. But the EU has no idea how to cope with that challenge. I suppose even the US-Mexican border is not as fatal...
And when I see the footage of the rescue teams, it hurts. They are dressed like the engineers at Japan's leaking nuclear reactor. They treat those immigrants as if they were toxic waste.
The reason for the rescue teams protective clothing is because many on the migrants come from countries like Eritrea which have a high prevalence of HIV and TB. Global Health Observatory Data Repository
But short of invading the countries where asylum seekers are coming from, I don't see how the EU can do anything other than to rescue them as and when they're found at sea.
There's some suggestion now of sinking smugglers boats (hopefully not with people still in them), but I can't see how that's going to work. After all, the navy can't just go in and shoot up all the boats in Tripoli harbour.
On the topic of mass immigration, I'm accusing the West European governments, particularly the Italian one, of gross negligence. The Italian navy is right now employed in "search and rescue mission" at the limit of tunisian and lybian waters, and has thus brought to European soil (thanks to the Schengen Agreement) 10 000 asylum seekers since the beginning of March. It just can't go on like that, lest Italy (and Europe) becomes totally submerged. Italian should topple the actual stupid prime minister (Monti, Draghi or whatever center left moron) and elect a tough goverment instead, which would decide not to bring the "migrants" to Italian shores, but to tow them back to where they come from ! My two cents.
Problem is, if they do that, they will immediately get the UN and of course the world policeman USA on their necks accusing them of human rights violations, crimes against humanity and suchlike crap. They will become the new target like Iraq.
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Problem is, if they do that, they will immediately get the UN and of course the world policeman USA on their necks accusing them of human rights violations, crimes against humanity and suchlike crap. They will become the new target like Iraq.
Exaggerate much? Nothing of that sort would happen. Already, the media in the USA is talking about how Italy is unfairly carrying the burden and talk is happening on how to help.
You're an EU enemy and yet, you live in Portugal the last time I checked, taking advantage of your EU right to freedom of movement that would evaporate if the EU was dissolved
Indeed, I would have to emigrate the GOOD, old-fashioned way, i.e. when emigration actually meant something other than moving house and being able to return at any time. One could actually be proud again to have achieved legal immigration and become a new citizen of the country of choice.
On the topic of mass immigration, I'm accusing the West European governments, particularly the Italian one, of gross negligence. The Italian navy is right now employed in "search and rescue mission" at the limit of tunisian and lybian waters, and has thus brought to European soil (thanks to the Schengen Agreement) 10 000 asylum seekers since the beginning of March. It just can't go on like that, lest Italy (and Europe) becomes totally submerged.
Italian should topple the actual stupid prime minister (Monti, Draghi or whatever center left moron) and elect a tough goverment instead, which would decide not to bring the "migrants" to Italian shores, but to tow them back to where they come from ! My two cents.
Wow, you are drowning in compassion
Many of those people come from war-torn places like Syria and a few troubled African countries.
I find it odd when the continent, whose people went around the world, killed native populations and stole their lands - entire continents -, are making such a fuss about a few million immigrants, most of whom are rather young by the way, exactly what wrinkling Europe needs, fresh blood. It's not that those immigrants are doing here what our ancestors did in Africa, the Americas, Australia etc., i.e. kill us off and steal our land.
I also find it odd because the EU with its economic policies, arms exports, etc. is contributing a lot to the poverty and hopelessness in Africa in the first place.
And even the small percentage of illegals who come for economic reasons only, i.e. not from a war-torn place, why should they not go somewhere they have not been invited? That is what European ancestors did, the Indians, Aboriginals etc. did not invite them, either.
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that would evaporate if the EU was dissolved
