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Old 04-20-2015, 02:13 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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But its not our problem.
What shall we do let them die in the sea???
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Old 04-20-2015, 02:14 PM
 
Location: LA, CA/ In This Time and Place
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But its not our problem.

But they are human beings, I know it is not your biggest concern, it is about jobs being stolen in Europe by evil folks.

So if I hear a woman being raped, I should not call the police, hey it's "not my problem".

Compassion once in a while is good for you trust me.: dubious:: hamd:: eek:
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Old 04-20-2015, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Northern Ireland and temporarily England
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Well I don't know but I think its upto Italy to look after this issue as they are arriving on their territory.

I don't think you can really stop them tbh..
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Old 04-20-2015, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Northern Ireland and temporarily England
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But they are human beings, I know it is not your biggest concern, it is about jobs being stolen in Europe by evil folks.

So if I hear a woman being raped, I should not call the police, hey it's "not my problem".

Compassion once in a while is good for you trust me.: dubious:: hamd:: eek:
No its about not having the capacity for these people to come and live in our countries, it is also about lack of funds and lack of resources to support these people.

I don't WANT anymore immigrants who don't have a degree or something that is actually useful because we already have enough people like that here we don't need anymore. These immigrants don't speak English which is also another issue.

I would worry that they will bring unrest with them also. I am tired of these people walking over white people and taking advantage of us.
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Old 04-20-2015, 02:18 PM
 
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That's because the one Million Europeans took advantage and the immigrants today need help generally. We all live on this world everyone and everything is inter-connected. Maybe we (as in our governments) should try their best to help the people in THEIR OWN Countries instead of complaining.
I'm perfectly fine with that and I'm perfectly fine with regular immigration.
I do support helping people in their countries but we can't really host any more.
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Well I don't know but I think its upto Italy to look after this issue as they are arriving on their territory.

I don't think you can really stop them tbh..
Actually it's been years that Italy is doing all the job while other EU countries sit and watch, we are quite sick of this.
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Old 04-20-2015, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Northern Ireland and temporarily England
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Well thats not our problem is it? And really if Italy was really that bothered they'd get up and kick them out.
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Old 04-20-2015, 02:21 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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No its about not having the capacity for these people to come and live in our countries, it is also about lack of funds and lack of resources to support these people.

I don't WANT anymore immigrants who don't have a degree or something that is actually useful because we already have enough people like that here we don't need anymore. These immigrants don't speak English which is also another issue.

I would worry that they will bring unrest with them also. I am tired of these people walking over white people and taking advantage of us.
Firstly these people are Human beings which is most important thing. There is enough resources to go round its just that our politicians and our system doesn't spread those resources properly.


Secondly Human beings and the world is all connected the fact they are ''not like us'' is irrelevant the fact that they are fleeing horrible conditions is what's important.

If you are the person to turn down people that need help just because they don't speak English that's great but that isn't the right thing to do.
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Old 04-20-2015, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Northern Ireland and temporarily England
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Firstly these people are Human beings which is most important thing. There is enough resources to go round its just that our politicians and our system doesn't spread those resources properly.


Secondly Human beings and the world is all connected the fact they are ''not like us'' is irrelevant the fact that they are fleeing horrible conditions is what's important.

If you are the person to turn down people that need help just because they don't speak English that's great but that isn't the right thing to do.
But its an issue relating to a country which is actually quite far away. Why should I care? We've got our own issues to deal with e.g. debt, transport, election etc. We really don't have time for this.

I really think that the bigger countries should pick this up instead of always expecting the small countries to take this and even then we have to think about our own people first. Its terrible what is happening to them but it is the problem of their government and it is out of our hands so what do you expect? I think these countries need to learn themselves.

And anyway why let these people in when people with degrees can't get in? Thats not fair..
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Old 04-20-2015, 02:25 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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I'm perfectly fine with that and I'm perfectly fine with regular immigration.
I do support helping people in their countries but we can't really host any more.

Actually it's been years that Italy is doing all the job while other EU countries sit and watch, we are quite sick of this.
I'm not we should host anymore infact I oppose mass immigration (who wouldn't I like England the way it is) but I feel that our governments could do more to help people that are fleeing conflict some of which have been made worse by Western Governments.

Before our Governments and theirs stop the root cause (conflict, mass poverty, discrimination etc) in their own Countries we should help the people that are emigrating to Europe.

This them and us attitude is twisted and doesn't help situations only makes things worse.
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Old 04-20-2015, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Berkshire, England
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Really many are trying to escape war zones, not to steal your jobs in the West.
Garbage. Do you know how many African countries they could go to to escape war zones? Lots is the answer. And they wouldn't need to get their feet wet in the process.

But they don't. Ask yourself why.

In the first instance they are the responsibility of their own countries. After that they are the responsibility of the African nations. Not Europe. And they never should be.

Just as soon as they know for certain they'll never be allowed to touch European soil they won't get into the boats and the death toll will cease.
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